Hair Cutting Party....

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It was my understanding both men spoke to the pastor in question.

If so...the pastor was ignorant...if not...then it was hearsay and probably didn't happen as told on the rumor mill.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Barb

Son, I am NOT doubting your word, nor do I ........ people to hell for cutting their hair, but if this actually happened, it gives me the heebie jeebies!!

The same heebie jeebies I get when the ladies took their hair down on the platform to pray over that basket of prayer request!

[freeatlast]

It's a shame on us. Our no cut hair doctrine is so scripturally weak that is has to propped with lies.

Lies about hair cutting parties that never happened as T1 posted.

Lies (false doctrines of magic hair) from a book marketed by our own publishing house.

Sad shame it is.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

It's a shame on us. Our no cut hair doctrine is so scripturally weak that is has to propped with lies.

Lies about hair cutting parties that never happened as T1 posted.

Lies (false doctrines of magic hair) from a book marketed by our own publishing house.

Sad shame it is.

What of those who said some instances actually happenned?

I think we have established that many of the stories are now Apostolic Urban Legend. Some are factual indeed.

Magic hair- wonder if they will drape it over the TV to "help evangelism?"

[Barb]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

The same heebie jeebies I get when the ladies took their hair down on the platform to pray over that basket of prayer request!

Same here...

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

What of those who said some instances actually happenned?

I think we have established that many of the stories are now Apostolic Urban Legend. Some are factual indeed.

Magic hair- wonder if they will drape it over the TV to "help evangelism?"

I am still not convinced that they are absolutley proven as factual. Those who are reporting instances of it being factual still have NOT said without some level of assumption that they know FOR SURE the ones propagating the stroies actually talked to the pastors who were supposed to have done this.

Even SE said, "It was my understanding" they talked with him...but did they? Has anyone really gone straight to the horses mouth? Not on this thread they haven't.

Did the men in SE's report say to SE, "I asked him point plank?" Then why didn't SE say, "They told me straight up that they spoke with him personally and he said it happened and I can absolutley verify this." instead of this loophole language, "It was my UNDERSTANDING..."

Here's the deal...no one, not one person, on this thread has verified the facts that it in fact happened on the same level that I have verified the facts that it did NOT happen...with me, I have been there for all of the services that I have been there (LOL)...and it never happened in my church..for the other 5 that I know of...I ASKED THE PASTORS MYSELF AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY CONFIRMED BY THEM TO ME THAT THEY HAD NO HAIR CUTTING ON THE PLATFORM SERVICE.

And why has Steadfast ignored my requests to verify he got his facts from the pastor in question?

["GL"]

Regarding the whole RG thing, I know several who were there. They never mentioned a hair cutting party on the platform - only that the wife was "paraded" across the platform having had a complete makeover. It was a part of the message.

In this secluded instance, the church ended up losing many, many good people. It is only a fraction of what it once was.

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by "GL"

Regarding the whole RG thing, I know several who were there. They never mentioned a hair cutting party on the platform - only that the wife was "paraded" across the platform having had a complete makeover. It was a part of the message.

In this secluded instance, the church ended up losing many, many good people. It is only a fraction of what it once was.

Yes...but at the same time, I think every preacher on this forum could say that what was percieved in the audience and what actially happened has a lot to do with each individuals paradigm at the moment.

There have been instances...even before our transition out of the UPC..that people who were looking for fault to find left a service saying I said this or we did that, which we did not...

I even had a case where someone away from our church sent a disgruntled to me in our church to specifically ask for the title of a certain sermon to buy as to "get the proof"...I listened to the tape myself repeatedly trying to find what they were saying I said...it wasn't there! I poured over my notes trying to come up with what they thought I said...I didn't say it...

If someone was sitting out there looking for fault...and Richard had his wife come up and speak with him during the message or something (as i have done on several occasions)...well of course he "paraded her across the platform"...he might have found it difficult that day to levitate her there...

["GL"]

It's a dangerous thing to always rush to the defense of what you don't know. Just as much as it is to rush to judge and condemn.

The people I know (several) were heartbroken. They were not judgemental or accusatory.


If you think this has never happened just because of your personal experience, you are in error.

[StillStanding]

I made a fool out of myself one time! I got upset because I thought I heard the preacher say something in his message. I wrote a letter to the preacher stating how displeased I was in his comment.

The pastor sent me a tape of the sermon. When I listened to the tape, he actually said something totally different! I had to apologize to the preacher!