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Old 09-15-2007, 08:22 PM
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I am truly thankful for women as my mother is one!
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:23 PM
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I am truly thankful for women as my mother is one!
Just think, if your mom wasn't a woman than that would have made you dad...uh.....

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Old 09-15-2007, 08:23 PM
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I tend to think a miniscule number of American's have any idea what persecution is really like. We really have no idea. It's arrogant to think we do.
Exactly!!!

Define persecution. None of us have seen it the way we usually think of and define the word.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:24 PM
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Exactly!!!

Define persecution. None of us have seen it the way we usually think of and define the word.
That's the point I was trying to make...what is persecution?!

Let's talk about that...
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:24 PM
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I tend to think a miniscule number of American's have any idea what persecution is really like. We really have no idea. It's arrogant to think we do.
I haven't resisted unto blood, but I've experienced a lot of other stuff.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:25 PM
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Maybe I'm wrong but I believe Judaism blames all evil on women.Because of Eve.
True Bible Christianity is not oppressive to women.
After all without Mary and her part in the virgin birth could redemption have been a reality ?
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:25 PM
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How I Came to Love the Veil
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POLITICIANS AND JOURNALISTS just love to write about the oppression of women in Islam ... without even talking to the females beneath the veil.
They simply have no idea how Muslim women are protected and respected within the Islamic framework which was built more than 1400 years ago.
Yet, by writing about cultural issues like child brides, female circumcision, honor killings and forced marriages they wrongly believe they are coming from a point of knowledge.


And I am sick of Saudi Arabia being cited as an example of how women are subjugated in a country where they are banned from driving.


The issues above have simply nothing to do with Islam yet they still write and talk about them with an arrogant air of authority while wrongly blaming Islam. Please do not confuse cultural behavior with Islam.


I was asked to write about how Islam allows men to beat their wives. Sorry, not true. Yes, I'm sure critics of Islam will quote random Qur'anic verses or ahadith but all are usually taken out of context. If a man does raise a finger to his wife, he is not allowed to leave a mark on her body ... this is another way of the Qur'an saying; "Don't beat your wife, stupid".

Now let's take a glance at some really interesting statistics, hmm. I can almost hear the words pot, kettle, black. According to the National Domestic Violence Hotline, four million American women experience a serious assault by a partner during an average 12-month period.
On the average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands and boyfriends every day . . . that is nearly 5,500 women battered to death since 9/11.

Some might say that is a shocking indictment on such a civilized society, but before I sound too smug, I would say that violence against women is a global issue. Violent men do not come in any particular religious or cultural category. The reality is that one out of three women around the world has been beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime. Violence against women transcends religion, wealth, class, skin color and culture.


However, until Islam came on the scene women were treated as inferior beings. In fact we women still have a problem in the West where men think they are superior. This is reflected in our promotion and wages structure right across the spectrum from cleaners to career women who make it into the boardroom.

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At least modern day women are no longer required to keep silent in the church. I suppose that was persecution back in Paul's day....oh wait persecution to Paul was a bit more harsh.....like being beaten, stoned, left for dead, thrown in prison..........of course having to wear a bee-hive hair-do and a dress is pretty close......
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I haven't resisted unto blood, but I've experienced a lot of other stuff.
As have we all. But it pales in comparison to our brothers and sisters elsewhere. We are fat with the blessings of God.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:26 PM
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Abuse and dominance is one thing.

Persecution is another.

I have never been persecuted.
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