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Old 09-21-2007, 01:24 AM
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I am disappointed that the so called "ministry" need only tell a pastor they are called and then he sets up some preaching. I feel if they are truely called to minister then they should just start on their own by winning souls, teaching bible studies, asking to do sunday school or other things. Personally I think all Holy Ghost filled individuals are called to minister. They might not all be called to preach.
Dude, maybe I left out some of the details, but I was just trying to acknowledge the conventional path into ministry.
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:36 AM
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Rico,

I just worry about someone who isn't rooted and grounded in a church. I also worry that if you would not become a member of a particular church then how could you recommend it to someone else?

I do feel like anyone is 'called' to a certain ministry then God will open the door for him/her to minister but the calling most often comes with a confirmation from someone you know and trust to be spiritual and in tune with God's working.

A true Pastor will be right there with you on the calling and will help prepare you for it. My Pastor is such a man.

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Old 09-21-2007, 11:07 AM
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HO, I doubt I will become a "member" at any church. I'm already a member of the church.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:11 AM
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Rico,

I just worry about someone who isn't rooted and grounded in a church. I also worry that if you would not become a member of a particular church then how could you recommend it to someone else?

I do feel like anyone is 'called' to a certain ministry then God will open the door for him/her to minister but the calling most often comes with a confirmation from someone you know and trust to be spiritual and in tune with God's working.

A true Pastor will be right there with you on the calling and will help prepare you for it. My Pastor is such a man.

Blessings, Rhoni
I was going to say just about the same thing but instead I'll just agree with what you said. I think it will be hard to explain to someone why you would recommend a church but not be a member there yourself. I'm also worried that his family will grow up and also not see the importance of church attendance in their lives.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:38 AM
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We all need someone to whom we submit. Submission to authority is a key principle in the NT church.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:42 AM
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We all need someone to whom we submit. Submission to authority is a key principle in the NT church.
every one must submit to their own master

every member of the body of Christ must submit to the head of the body

call no man rabbi, for one is your Master, Christ; and all ye are brethren.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:43 AM
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every one must submit to their own master

every member of the body of Christ must submit to the head of the body

call no man rabbi, for one is your Master, Christ; and all ye are brethren.
So, you do not believe in submitting to those who have rule over you?!
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:53 AM
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So, you do not believe in submitting to those who have rule over you?!
I believe ONLY ONE member of the Body of Christ has the rule over any other member in the Body of Christ, the Head, the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ.

Denominated 'heads' are a silly man-made thing in the assembly of our spiritual fellowship in Christ.

There are countess dominions and authorities and headships in the created/temporal realm. We should obey all those RULERS.

God has not appointed rulers to bless his church, he has appointed servants. Servants who love him; bondservants.

So to answer you question directly would mean that I would have to accept your word structure as having application man-to-man in Christ. I wholehearted disagree with any man having RULE over any other man in the ministration of our roles in the Body of CHRIST.

In your way of asking...I would say NO. But you see I would be saying NO to the premise that God has appointed RULERS in addition to the HEAD of the Body --I DO NOT BELIEVE HE HAS DONE SUCH.

I believe in obeying RULERS.
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Old 09-21-2007, 12:01 PM
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I believe ONLY ONE member of the Body of Christ has the rule over any other member in the Body of Christ, the Head, the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ.

Denominated 'heads' are a silly man-made thing in the assembly of our spiritual fellowship in Christ.

There are countess dominions and authorities and headships in the created/temporal realm. We should obey all those RULERS.

God has not appointed rulers to bless his church, he has appointed servants. Servants who love him; bondservants.

So to answer you question directly would mean that I would have to accept your word structure as having application man-to-man in Christ. I wholehearted disagree with any man having RULE over any other man in the ministration of our roles in the Body of CHRIST.

In your way of asking...I would say NO. But you see I would be saying NO to the premise that God has appointed RULERS in addition to the HEAD of the Body --I DO NOT BELIEVE HE HAS DONE SUCH.

I believe in obeying RULERS.
So, "obey them that have rule over you for they watch for your soul" does not apply to you or does not apply at all?!
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tbpew, do you believe that you should be a regular, faithful attender of a certain church? do you believe that fellowshiping with other believers is important?
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