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Old 09-23-2007, 04:23 PM
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I think that I share you sentiments about Oneness theology, however I don't think this board reflects the dynamics of the early church.

Also, I would argue with Gill's assertion that Oneness people "make up only a fraction of one percent of the world's Pentecostals." I don't have any numbers handy right now, but that sounds too low. Talmadge French published some studies several years ago and I seem to remember the numbers being a lot higher.
Yes, this is true, but you will find that many here do not agree with his findings.

I do...
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:46 PM
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These numbers are purposely skewed! The UPCI alone a couple of years ago boasted nearly 4,000,000 with 1/2 being the Ethiopian church under Teklemariam.
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What is an example of a Oneness patting a Trinitarian "enemy" on the back?
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Dividing Over Oneness
The Oneness movement pushed Pentecostals to organize
by Kenneth Gill


Many small Oneness groups formed after 1916, though many have remained independent. Today scholars estimate there are between 1.5 and 5 million Oneness Pentecostals worldwide, and they make up only a fraction of one percent of the world's Pentecostals.

Kenneth Gill is acting director of the Billy Graham Center Library in Wheaton, Illinois.

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Anyone agree or disagree w/ Gill's assertions in this article?

This has to be old info....according to Bro. French there are over 24 million Oneness Pentecostals in the world
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:31 PM
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This has to be old info....according to Bro. French there are over 24 million Oneness Pentecostals in the world
I have read/heard that there about 500 million Pentecostals/Charismatics in the world.
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This has to be old info....according to Bro. French there are over 24 million Oneness Pentecostals in the world
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I have read/heard that there about 500 million Pentecostals/Charismatics in the world.
Using these two figures it comes out to almost 5%.

But 500 million? Evangelistically speaking? That's 1/2 a Billion.

"According to The World Christian Encyclopedia, edited by David B. Barret New York, 1982), the world-wide total of Pentecostals is estimated at claiming close to one hundred million adherents."

Using those numbers it comes to about 24-25%. Something between a quarter and a third seems to fit with my experience.
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Using these two figures it comes out to almost 5%.

But 500 million? Evangelistically speaking? That's 1/2 a Billion.

"According to The World Christian Encyclopedia, edited by David B. Barret New York, 1982), the world-wide total of Pentecostals is estimated at claiming close to one hundred million adherents."

Using those numbers it comes to about 24-25%. Something between a quarter and a third seems to fit with my experience.
At the cenntenial Azusa Street celebration they used official numbers and came up with something just under 600 million. Of course in some cases (such as the COGIC) one could call the "official numbers" into question.

French, I believe, documented over 23 million but estimated the actual number may be as high as 30 million due to statisic issues in some places such as China.
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What is an example of a Oneness patting a Trinitarian "enemy" on the back?
Who said "enemy"?

And by patting on the back I meant that is a metaphor for supporting someone else...like high fiving someone over what they said
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At the cenntenial Azusa Street celebration they used official numbers and came up with something just under 600 million. Of course in some cases (such as the COGIC) one could call the "official numbers" into question.

French, I believe, documented over 23 million but estimated the actual number may be as high as 30 million due to statisic issues in some places such as China.
I dunno. It is estimated that there are 1.5 billion Christians in the world. Of that number- 600 million are "Pentecostal/Charismatic?" That's 40% of all Christians.
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