Pictures of the Youth Congress~

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Isn't it possible that you are seeing it that way because you are OLD????

Seriously, don't you remember what the old-timers said about things you liked when you were that age? Have you forgotten already?

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Wow, same year I was born.

If i'm OLD then so are you.

[chseeads]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

UC,

I appreciate your stand for your beliefs even though I disagree with some of them. I hope you don't pull out of the UPC over the issue of TV advertising. Let the others do as they feel they are led and continue with your convictions without causing a schism in the body.

Schism wouldn't really be any bigger than it already is. People associate with who they want to associate with and don't with who they don't. It's already in place, the membership is all that would drop.

[QueenEsther]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

1980

you?

Wow. I was born in 1981! Your only one year older than I am.

[Theresa]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

Don't worry, I don't think the GYD has any intention at all of changing a thing.

you appear to have already "left" the UPC...without physically doing so....

Might as well leave anyway, your problems with them are only going to fester and cause a problem elsewhere, even if the resolution fails.

But I would like to know how you explain the tv vs. internet debate?

You have total, free access to television shows on the internet, and even on cell phones - but we do not preach against them.

How do those anti TV, justify use of the internet for church websites, but not television?

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

1980

you?

Way younger was an overstatement! LOL!

I'm a healthy, youthful looking 38, thankyouberymuch!!!!

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by Strongminded

Sister, With all the respect in the world I ask....
How can you not be in favor of tv...and yet admit the internet is more dangerous and have the internet but no tv??

Why would you facilitate the greater of the evils???


This is very confusing to me.

Sorry, I didn´t answer and this is fast as company just arrived from north Brazil. However I did not want to make it look like I was ignoring you.

I really am from the generation where few people ever had a television and we never felt it the best thing...but in all my long posts on any given subject you will never find me sending anyone to hell. I always contend the heart is the real thing that needs to be changed.

It has been our choice not to have one just like a lot of things are governed by choice. For us it was the right thing to do. I have many friends that have televisions it is between them and what they feel are their values.

I agree the internet is far more evil than a television but I happen to use it and need it. I really don´t see a need for a TV. Our people have been taught to spend prime time with their families and we teach it best for the mother to stay home if possible. We are family people in this world of so much divorce.

Our children are all grown and several have come to us and thanked us for not having one in the house when they were growing up. We are blessed that our children love the Lord.

I have never been one to make long lists of rules I just live what I believe and believe what I live and besides that I am a woman...so my opinions are just my personal opinions.

It seems 95% of our church people have followed the same principle...Judge not...live what you believe...

I know some tough pulpit people but the message they themselves cannot live...I had rather let all know I am just human and when they see a weakness or a fault they will pray for me not call me a hypocrite.

I do not encourage no one to do anything that they cannot live. I always tell my kids and church people when they look at me in the coffin I want them to be able to say, I was a christian.
To be a christian is to be Christ-like.
I hope we can all be like Him even when we differ.

I don´t care for people who think they are above others in some spiritual mindset that they have God´s only revelation. We are all just clay earthen vessels with most time lots of scars and cracks and broken...

It is the jewel within us that must shine...we are protecting that treasure in earthen vessels...

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

UC,

I appreciate your stand for your beliefs even though I disagree with some of them. I hope you don't pull out of the UPC over the issue of TV advertising. Let the others do as they feel they are led and continue with your convictions without causing a schism in the body.

How is taking college classes online any different from watching educational television? or watching youtube or a church webcast?

Let's not forget that one can get TV programming on the internet and on the cell phone too!

Originally Posted by mizpeh

UC,

I appreciate your stand for your beliefs even though I disagree with some of them. I hope you don't pull out of the UPC over the issue of TV advertising. Let the others do as they feel they are led and continue with your convictions without causing a schism in the body.

How is taking college classes online any different from watching educational television? or watching youtube or a church webcast?

Mizpeh, thanks for the comments. I have already made my mind up that if the RES passes then I will leave. We have a circle of fellowship set up already so we won't be out there as a lone ranger. There will be life after the UPC. Besides that, the UPC is not the church. It is possible to be apart of the body of Christ without being in the UPC.

I would at least hope that most people would see a difference between going to school online and watching TV. I can't think of anybody that has a TV that "just" watches educational videos. You may be the first but I just don't believe this is the case with everybody. There are discussions on here about R Rated movies, PG-13 movies, TV shows called wifeswap, and people that have south park avatars. How can you expect people to stop at just educational? We preach against TV period. As far as YouTube goes, I don't watch it. I don't watch preaching videos either. I try to stay consistant in what I believe. Others may not but I happen to agree with Larry Booker's view of the internet as a library. I pull from it only what I want and NOTHING more. I know there is evil at my fingertips but I have set up a safety net to keep me from those things. It's obvious that the TV watchers have no intention at just watching educational given some of the movie topics found on AFF.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by chseeads

I still think everybody talking about and harping and griping and rebuking over TV, on the Internet, is a hilarious phenomenon.

Didn't want this post to go unnoticed.

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

I just can't support some of the things that went on there. Like I said we take our kids to other youth events and they are blessed by being there. I do think there is an obvious agenda planned out at Youth Congress and I don't wish to expose our young people to this. It's not just youth congress, we don't go to our district UPC campmeeting or youth events in our district either. We have many things for our church, many special services, special youth services, ect for our people to attend. We have Conference speakers on a regular basis that come and preach for us. Last year we had Larry Booker, Tim Copeland, Jerry Green, Johnny King, and several others. Already scheduled for the future we are having Johnny Godair, Steve Pixler, and Larry Booker (again). Don't feel sorry for us, our church is truely blessed, what we don't do with the district or through national events we have at the local church.

I was just listening to a tape of Brother Booker today and oh how I love and respect Brother Pixler...a prince...(I can say that I am old enough to be his mother and she is my friend)