Pictures of the Youth Congress~

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

Wow, same year I was born.

Ya'll are such younguns!!!! LOL!!!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

Why does it matter to you rather I leave or not.

If it bothers you why even attempt to discuss it in a PUBLIC forum. This IS, after all, a public forum and your leaving or staying has become a public topic. So sue me for being opinionated and blunt, but I have made my opinion on this issue known...take it for what it is worth, if you decide to take it at all seeing as how you have said you already made up your mind

I have no hard feelings against the UPC. I got the Holy Ghost in a UPC church my most memorable times with God have been in a UPC church. I simply disagree with where I think the org is going and for that reason I will align myself with other men and churches of the same principles that I believe and that we preach.

My points and questions are still there. You are not addressing them. So you disagree....remember it's just an organization. It's purpose was NOT meant to force us how to think. It was there to unify us in a common theology and to reach the world.

You know the TV thing at one time was NOT part of the org? It was added, just as other issues were added or removed. Video was removed.

The direction of the ORG does not affect YOUR personal direction nor your churches. Only decrees that FORCE you to think or act a certain way, contrary to your own personal views, affect you. So I still don't see why anyone has to leave when no resolution being presented forces you to change in any way.

I can understand people who want to use TV leaving because they ARE being forced to think or act or NOT act a certain way by decree against their own opinion and judgement to NOT use TV to reach out to the lost.

I don't think that the RES will affect me at all. Our members don't watch TV so they'll never see the ads. I don't think we'll be any weaker becuse of us leaving. We pray a lot of people through so I don't think that's going to change. We support missions through the IAm system and not through Faith Promise so we'll continue to do that. I ask, why then should I stay and support the org?

That is my point....why leave if it does not affect you or your church? Why can't we ALL unify to work together to reach the lost instead of quibbling over things that don't even affect us?

Originally Posted by QueenEsther

Wow. I was born in 1981! Your only one year older than I am.

WOW I FEEL SO OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by UltraCon

This isn't a good example. The UPC is NOT a church and KH is NOT my pastor. I am in submission to a Pastor not a leader in the org.

Let me get this straight....you would not submit yourself to the elected leader of our org????



You need to leave ...you already think like an independent UC....no submission to anything.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Starbucks

Speaking of the Youth Congress what is this all about?

Apostolic Idol

Once again, the Pentecostal Music Association offered 15 talented people/groups the opportunity to win $1,000 and win a recording contract (thanks to Zion Recording and Daywind Records). The winners were:

Group: Exodus (1st); Fallen Chains (2nd); Total Praise (3rd)

Male: Mark Crowder; Bryce Allard; Ryan Johns

Female: Don’t shoot us, but the winner in this category garnered so much applause we couldn’t hear the name! (Someone send it to us!); Ashley Webster; Kristen Sharp

I found this on ninety and nine http://www.ninetyandnine.com/Archive...0813/cover.htm

I believe Fallen Chains is a local group here in Wisconsin.

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by aquestioninggirl

WOW I FEEL SO OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And with a bun in the oven too!! LOL!

[Sister Alvear]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

My Pastor is very good friends with the Bookers. Bro Booker is on the Elder board for our church. He's also very close to Jonathan Alvear, i'm assuming that you are related to him? My Pastor's sister goes to his church.

Jonathan is my nephew and just preached our conference in south Brazil and preached for us here in the northeast. We will visit him sometime in November the Lord willing.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

I've never hit a golfball. In fact i've never held a golf club.

I pity you! You poor soul, you need to get out to a golf course and give it a try!

Originally Posted by Strongminded

Let me get this straight....you would not submit yourself to the elected leader of our org????



You need to leave ...you already think like an independent UC....no submission to anything.

Not for one minute would I submit to the leader of an org!

I'm more submissive than you think. I have a Pastor that I submit to.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by UltraCon

Not for one minute would I submit to the leader of an org!

I'm more submissive than you think. I have a Pastor that I submit to.

BTW the leader of an org is not meant to be someone we submit to. We look to him for leadership to unify the collective group. But it takes more than a leader. It takes active participation and tolerance and sometimes even compromises from both sides. Each side has to remember the organization is an alliance, not a church to issue decrees...in fact who wants a church to issue decrees? Might as well go back to Rome for papal edicts