*** TV Resolution Passes: The Fallout

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Ferd

The AMF will benifit. that is my prediction.

For men who would feel comfortable in the AMF this resolution was the least of their issues with the UPC.

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

If a group pulls out will this, in any way, be different than a group in a local church pulling out and starting their own work because they don't like something that went on?

Really do not see that to be a problem as much as refusing to fellowship with anyone who does not agree with every single rule. With that mentality it seems just a matter of time before they split among themselves over the trimming split ends debate.

[Stephanas]

"Live by the sword; Die by the sword"

There is a certain sense of poetic justice in today's events.

In 1992 the more conservative brethren wielded a political sword to cut off more liberal brethren.

Today the same political sword has cut them off with its back swing.

Perhaps the UPCI will finally have the great revival it has talked about for so long when it gets its numbers pared down to Gideon's 300.

[kylady]

What is the AMF?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Stephanas

"Live by the sword; Die by the sword"

There is a certain sense of poetic justice in today's events.

In 1992 the more conservative brethren wielded a political sword to cut off more liberal brethren.

Today the same political sword has cut them off with its back swing.

Perhaps the UPCI will finally have the great revival it has talked about for so long when it gets its numbers pared down to Gideon's 300.

MMM .... so much truth in this thread ... Where art thou, Westburg?

so... if a mass amount of UCs pull out...

doesn't that make it easier to pass resolutions eliminating standards of various flavors that are superfulous and stupid??

(read: not all are stupid, but some are extremely stupid)

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The new org will get the bulk of cons.

I think you may be right....IF it happens. I dont know if it will happen.

even still, the new org will fellowship the AMF. I would bet on that.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84

so... if a mass amount of UCs pull out...

doesn't that make it easier to pass resolutions eliminating standards of various flavors that are superfulous and stupid??

(read: not all are stupid, but some are extremely stupid)

Not really. there are more men in the MOD to Con range that are still in who still believe in Holiness as understood by the current UPCI.

the UPCI is STILL a holiness organization (thank God.)

Originally Posted by Ferd

Not really. there are more men in the MOD to Con range that are still in who still believe in Holiness as understood by the current UPCI.

the UPCI is STILL a holiness organization (thank God.)

I'm not saying everything is going to change...

I'm saying the ultra-silly ones...

like I've always heard there were still places where they preached its sinful to wear colored dress-shirts under your suit jacket... or you can't wear a wedding band... or you can't wear certain colors to church... or other completely nonsensical things...

I'm not talking about the majority of the standards, really... just those kind of nonsensical ones...

[Margies3]

I have what may sound like a very stupid question but I'm gonna ask it anyway.......................

Way back in the late '60's, the church I attended was independent. It had been started that way and had never joined any organization. then we got a pastor who was UPC and shortly after it was decided that the church itself would become UPC. My understanding at that point was that the UPC now could claim ownership of the church building and property. And that if the church ever folded (which I expect this one to do sometime in the next few years), then the building and the property would go to the UPC organization and they would decide what to do with it. If they sold it, the monies from the sale would become the property of the organization - not the congregation who had funded this thing for all these years. Am I right? Did I understand this right?

So my question becomes - if all of these pastors and/or churches pull out as some expect, what in the world will the UPC organization do with all of the buildings and properties? They will need to form a whole new division just to handle real estate, doncha think???