The Eulogy Begins - Page 13

#**121** 09-29-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Once again we all know it's not new ... but it the resolution was amended w/ a specific purpose, T1.

The clearer definitions were necessary to create an assembly line for excommunications ... prior the ambiguity and vagueness slowed down to process ... guys would appeal ... have others advocate ... debate, etc.

This was designed to sharpen the tool for cons to pressure boards to take swift and decisive actions against undesirables post-TV resolution defeat.

The complaint has always been enforcement ... and this would have enabled the Inquisition.

Dan,

I too have fears that some of this may happen... and I do agree that the definitions were streamlined somewhat... but, as evidenced by T1, if it hasn't been happening in a given district I doubt it will begin just because of the amending of the article.

SDG · #**122** 09-29-2007, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

Dan,

I too have fears that some of this may happen... and I do agree that the definitions were streamlined somewhat... but, as evidenced by T1, if it hasn't been happening in a given district I doubt it will begin just because of the amending of the article.

And my point is this ... it most likely won't happen now as the cons have lost considerable amount of control ... they were hoping to energize and sanitize the org after this TV issue was defeated once and for all ....

Furthermore there is some question about how it passed on the floor at GC.

Nahum · #**123** 09-29-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I totally agree.

I'll tell you a story that proves your point.

I have a cousin who is part of a fledgling org of about 300 churches and 500 ministers. He knows, as do many others, that I had been unhappy with my current situation.

My discontent had nothing to do with the UPC, it was borne from the animosity spewed toward from a small minority of men within the org.
When I have used phrases like "It's time to escape the borg", or "the spirit of abortion" I was addressing that minority of men who made things so strained.

Anyway, I have been exploring all options - that is no secret.

My cousin contacted his superintendent. The superintendent wanted to meet me, with the purpose of bringing me on board in an official leadership capacity with the org.

We talked. I found his ideology was too liberal for me. He was too tolerant of things I considered false doctrine. Long story short - I turned it down.

Well, I continue to be pressured to leave where I am at. I mean doctrinally.

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!!

So, Brother Jones, I agree. I have been privy to control issues on both sides of the aisle. The thing is, this past week is remarkable because it's the first time I have seen the conservative side lose on any control issue.

I am not gloating, but I will admit to being relieved.

Bump for Brother Jones

#**124** 09-29-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Bump for Brother Jones

PP,

Thanks for providing the balanced example. I am considering a group that is left of the UPC on standards but on target on the doctrine.

I am seeking the release I need in the Holy Ghost before I send in my application.

I appreciate your prayers as I make what is for me a monumental decision.

Nahum · #**125** 09-29-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

PP,

Thanks for providing the balanced example. I am considering a group that is left of the UPC on standards but on target on the doctrine.

I am seeking the release I need in the Holy Ghost before I send in my application.

I appreciate your prayers as I make what is for me a monumental decision.

You will have them.

Godspeed!

J-Roc · #**126** 09-29-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

PP,

Thanks for providing the balanced example. I am considering a group that is left of the UPC on standards but on target on the doctrine.

I am seeking the release I need in the Holy Ghost before I send in my application.

I appreciate your prayers as I make what is for me a monumental decision.

Whic group is this? :sshhh

#**127** 09-29-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

PP,

Thanks for providing the balanced example. I am considering a group that is left of the UPC on standards but on target on the doctrine.

I am seeking the release I need in the Holy Ghost before I send in my application.

I appreciate your prayers as I make what is for me a monumental decision.

wait...

wouldn't "left of the UPC" = less standards???

Evang.Benincasa · #**128** 09-29-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by philjones

PP,

Thanks for providing the balanced example. I am considering a group that is left of the UPC on standards but on target on the doctrine.

I am seeking the release I need in the Holy Ghost before I send in my application.

I appreciate your prayers as I make what is for me a monumental decision.

I love you Brother, I just need to understand something. Why are you leaving the UPCI and going to an organization that would be left of UPCI standards?

SDG · #**129** 09-29-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I love you Brother, I just need to understand something. Why are you leaving the UPCI and going to an organization that would be left of UPCI standards?

He never said he just left the UPCI ... EB ...