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09-29-2007, 07:34 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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seems like many are pricked in their heart...
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09-29-2007, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ILG
Wow, I thought what mattered was your relationship with Jesus.
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I think that's the crux of his message....if you have a relationship with Jesus, you're gonna be winning the lost, not caught up in fashion, politics, etc.
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09-29-2007, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lisafitzh2o
I think that's the crux of his message....if you have a relationship with Jesus, you're gonna be winning the lost, not caught up in fashion, politics, etc.
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Jeremiah didn't win one soul. He just tried, that's all. I guess I'm just making that point. I'm not watching the preaching.
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09-29-2007, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ILG
Wow, I thought what mattered was your relationship with Jesus.
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He was speaking to the ministry for the most part and their attitude and motives...
whether they wanted to be celebrities or Heroes?
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09-29-2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by lisafitzh2o
Don't know if he still is, but last year he was youth prez in Delaware. Can't tell if he's conservative, mod, or lib...but from his preaching he sounds moderate. HE AIN'T JOKIN' TONIGHT! He's basically saying it doesn't matter what clothes you're wearing or whether you sit on the platform or not, it's all about whether you're winning souls or not! 
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Hmmmm......I only caught the last few minutes of his sermon but he wasn't "saying" anything. He was screaming some things though!!!
I just don't understand why UPC preachers cannot be emphatic and strong speakers without the screaming.
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09-29-2007, 07:38 PM
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What else is he saying?
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09-29-2007, 07:38 PM
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His word burns in my heart like a fire...Fire Fall Down
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Originally Posted by ILG
Jeremiah didn't win one soul. He just tried, that's all. I guess I'm just making that point. I'm not watching the preaching.
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This likely is the reason you are not capturing the theme of the message.
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09-29-2007, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by CC1
Hmmmm......I only caught the last few minutes of his sermon but he wasn't "saying" anything. He was screaming some things though!!!
I just don't understand why UPC preachers cannot be emphatic and strong speakers without the screaming.
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I tuned into GC last night for about 3 minutes and turned it off because I couldn't tolerate the screaming. It's seemed like so much emotionalism. I sure have a different viewpoint than I did a few years ago.
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09-29-2007, 07:40 PM
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This likely is the reason you are not capturing the theme of the message.
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I suppose. I just remember, in the UPC, that everything was about winning souls all the time.
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09-29-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
What else is he saying?
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Stop worrying about what the Jones' think of you? In other word, stop worrying if you (as a minister) have celebrity status....stop worrying about what seats you have at General Conference....basically shooting down the attitude that has a deep longing and desire for significance....
....MJ rather be a sinner's hero than the UPC's celebrity...and things like that.
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