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Old 09-30-2007, 08:38 PM
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Brother that's as cold as the side tread on your bike.
LOL!!!! I am trying to motivate Elder Epley to not stand me up next time we are supposed to have lunch when he is in town. I am giving him plenty of reason to want to kock me upside my head.
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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LOL!!!! I am trying to motivate Elder Epley to not stand me up next time we are supposed to have lunch when he is in town. I am giving him plenty of reason to want to kock me upside my head.
Hey, take him for a ride on your bike.
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Old 09-30-2007, 08:46 PM
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The UCs were never the only group in this org...they might have been the most vocal or in control longer or whatever but many others put a lot into this group and in fact were kicked out, forced out, marginalized or whatever...this org has become something it was never meant to be.
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It seems the org became an Idol rather than a means of unifying all OPs to evangelize this world.
The organization never became an idol for the Conservative Brothers. They had Ultra Cons from the Independents come and preach for them, so I hardly think any of the Conservatives held to an idol worship of the org.

As for unifying One God people the conservatives of the UPCI were writing articles for Brother Bud Tingle for years in his newspaper. Prax you sure you not talking about the Liberals?

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Old 09-30-2007, 08:54 PM
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It's a sad day for the UPC when people like these have built their faith on having no tv's! What a joke that this is all you can talk about! Did the Depression cause humanity to give up? Yes, there were some, but it also caused the Church to get on their knees and pray to God for their needs! What this silly, ridiculous resolution should cause people to reach out to the lost...Helloooo...isn't that what the Church is all about? That Conservative elder you quoted needs to look at his foundation! Sorry, I don't buy that and I agree with AtlantaBishop, let's advertise our church to bring them in! Get in touch with Jesus friends!!!
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An older lady was standing with me today, openly weeping as she said: "Today I have lost my heritage.....the heritage that I have had all my life."

Another elder told me: "I can make it, I'm almost retired. It is you young guys that I'm worried about."

We shall look back upon this day with astonishment. We have seen history today.

(name removed) epilogue:

Those who ignore history in the pursuit of a mis-perceived destiny, are destined to fail.

My sympathies to those who thought they were helping the UPCI progress, but will instead help preside over its demise.

BTW, as I left the Marriott today, Clint Brown and Tommy Tenney were arriving with their entourages. Are the vultures arriving already?

With sorrow in my heart, I thank God that my father didn't live to see this day and be broken-hearted.
That "elderly lady" had to have been just 30 years old. Her "I have lost my heritage.....the heritage that I have had all my life" statement reveals she must be less than 30! Resolution 4 simply removed a 30 year old restriction.

And, "openly weeping..." doesn't your "source" have any shame?

And, Shamgar- we already have seen pics of your buddy Clint Brown. He was there early and appears to travel alone.

How many more lies and sorry exagerations can we expect to hear from this crowd?

Shamgar - Truth: These guys lied in 1992 and lie today.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:02 PM
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It's a sad day for the UPC when people like these have built their faith on having no tv's! What a joke that this is all you can talk about! Did the Depression cause humanity to give up? Yes, there were some, but it also caused the Church to get on their knees and pray to God for their needs! What this silly, ridiculous resolution should cause people to reach out to the lost...Helloooo...isn't that what the Church is all about? That Conservative elder you quoted needs to look at his foundation! Sorry, I don't buy that and I agree with AtlantaBishop, let's advertise our church to bring them in! Get in touch with Jesus friends!!!
Very good you are so spiritual that you miss the point it's not about television, it's about an organization becoming commercialized.

Step right up, step right up, step right up,
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore
That's right, you too can be THE Pentecostals!
The quality goes in before the name goes on
One-tenth of a dollar, one-tenth of a dollar, we got services after services
You need Bible? we got Bibles, how 'bout a wedding ring?
Something for the little lady, something for the little lady,
Something for the little lady, hmm
Three for a dollar
We got a year-end clearance, we got a white raiment sale
And a free water baptism in whatever name you choose, you can sign your life away today
Act now, acts 2:38 now, and receive as our gift, our gift to you water proof baptismal robes
they come in all colors, one size fits all!
No muss, no fuss, no spills, you're tired of religious drudgery
Everything must go, going for your business, going for your business
Giving you the business sale!
Fifty percent off original retail price, skip the middle man, the preacher man!
Don't settle for less
How do we do it? how do we do it? volume, volume, turn up the volume, pump up the volume! Sunday School reports galore!!
Now you've heard it advertised, don't hesitate Pentecostalate
Don't be caught without your Mother's Day Memorial glow in the dark pen,
Don't be caught with without your Mother's Day Memorial glow in the darkness!
You can step right up, step right up, ready or not step right up, we are the Pentecostals will step you right up, and dunk you right in, remember fill out this little paper, and don't forget your adress, step right up!

That's right, it filets, it chops, it dices, slices,
Never stops, lasts an everlasting lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted standards, it gets rid of preachers,teachers, evangelists and reachers, It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens

And it finds that hot stick that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Hammond B-3 organ,
It spins your bow tie around your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up, it's only a dollar, step right up

'It helps you speak in tongues, holds your hair in a bun,
If not completely satisfied, mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow forty days and forty nights for delivery, don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it, laugh in it, shout in it
Run the pews in it, sleep in the pews in it,
Live in it, pay your tithes in it, laugh in it, shout in it
Removes embarrassing liberal Charismatics from off your streets, that's right
And it entertains your Sunday school visitors, it turns a sandwich into a fellowship hall
Tired of being the life of the party?
Change your doctrine, change your life, change your life
Change into a nine-year-old Mormon boy, get rid of your presbyter,
And it walks your dog, and it doubles on sax
Doubles on sax, you can jump back Jack, see you later alligator
See you later Tommy Tenney
And it steals your tithes
It gets rid of your tithes, it causes Charismatics to quit smoking
It's a friend, and it's a companion,
And it's the only product you will ever need
Follow these easy assembly instructions it never needs ironing
Well it takes weight off your mind,
Gives you dandruff, and it finds you a job, it is a job
And it strips the vistors wallets, take ten for five exchange,
And it gives you long uncut hair, or makes you look like you have long uncut hair
And you know it's a friend, and it's a companion
And it gets rid of your tithes and offerings
It's new, it's improved, it's beyound-old-fashioned
Well it takes care of business, never needs winding,
Never needs winding, never needs winding
Gets rid of spiritualality, and the heartbreak of psoriasis,

C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
'Cause it's effective, it's defective, it creates home Bible studies,
It disinfects, it sanitizes for your outreach, are you traumatized?
It electrifies, and purifies, wakes up sleeping visitors in the pews
Why put up with painful Charismatic Televangelists any longer? The Pentecostals are here!

We give out redeemable coupons with every baptism, no obligation, no salesman will visit your home
We got a jackpot, jackpot, jackpot, prizes, prizes, prizes, all home missions guaranteed!
Come on down! The Pentecostals are in town!
How do we do it, how do we do it, how do we do it, how do we do it
We need your business, we're going to give you the business
We are the business!
Televangelisms our new business we learned John Maxwell's business
Receive our free brochure, free brochure
Read the easy-to-follow assembly instructions, batteries not included
Send before midnight tomorrow, terms available,
Step right up, step right up, step right up
You got it saint of God: the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away!!!
Step right up, you can step right up, you can step right up
C'mon step right up
(Get away from me Ultra Con, you bother me...)
Step right up, step right up, step right up, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
Step right up, you can step right up, c'mon and step right up,
C'mon and step right up
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:18 PM
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I spend less time in front of the television than you did coming up with an asinine post. Your perception of advertising would change if spent time researching the LOCAL angle of tv ministries instead getting chaffed over national tv preachers.
I reiterate it is none's business how a congregation decides to outreach. Nobody is forcing you to use television in your outreach. Just because you are not spirtual enough to handle tv advertising doesn't mean we all have to twiddle our thumbs while you are sucking your thumb. Some of us are ready to take Paul's words when he said he would be all to win some.

In keeping with the theme of the thread,

Ashes to ashes
Dust to Dust
It's about time
Legalism lost.

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Very good you are so spiritual that you miss the point it's not about television, it's about an organization becoming commercialized.


Step right up, step right up, step right up,
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore
That's right, you too can be THE Pentecostals!
The quality goes in before the name goes on
One-tenth of a dollar, one-tenth of a dollar, we got services after services
You need Bible? we got Bibles, how 'bout a wedding ring?
Something for the little lady, something for the little lady,
Something for the little lady, hmm
Three for a dollar
We got a year-end clearance, we got a white raiment sale
And a free water baptism in whatever name you choose, you can sign your life away today
Act now, acts 2:38 now, and receive as our gift, our gift to you water proof baptismal robes
they come in all colors, one size fits all!
No muss, no fuss, no spills, you're tired of religious drudgery
Everything must go, going for your business, going for your business
Giving you the business sale!
Fifty percent off original retail price, skip the middle man, the preacher man!
Don't settle for less
How do we do it? how do we do it? volume, volume, turn up the volume, pump up the volume! Sunday School reports galore!!
Now you've heard it advertised, don't hesitate Pentecostalate
Don't be caught without your Mother's Day Memorial glow in the dark pen,
Don't be caught with without your Mother's Day Memorial glow in the darkness!
You can step right up, step right up, ready or not step right up, we are the Pentecostals will step you right up, and dunk you right in, remember fill out this little paper, and don't forget your adress, step right up!

That's right, it filets, it chops, it dices, slices,
Never stops, lasts an everlasting lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted standards, it gets rid of preachers,teachers, evangelists and reachers, It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens

And it finds that hot stick that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Hammond B-3 organ,
It spins your bow tie around your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up, it's only a dollar, step right up

'It helps you speak in tongues, holds your hair in a bun,
If not completely satisfied, mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow forty days and forty nights for delivery, don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it, laugh in it, shout in it
Run the pews in it, sleep in the pews in it,
Live in it, pay your tithes in it, laugh in it, shout in it
Removes embarrassing liberal Charismatics from off your streets, that's right
And it entertains your Sunday school visitors, it turns a sandwich into a fellowship hall
Tired of being the life of the party?
Change your doctrine, change your life, change your life
Change into a nine-year-old Mormon boy, get rid of your presbyter,
And it walks your dog, and it doubles on sax
Doubles on sax, you can jump back Jack, see you later alligator
See you later Tommy Tenney
And it steals your tithes
It gets rid of your tithes, it causes Charismatics to quit smoking
It's a friend, and it's a companion,
And it's the only product you will ever need
Follow these easy assembly instructions it never needs ironing
Well it takes weight off your mind,
Gives you dandruff, and it finds you a job, it is a job
And it strips the vistors wallets, take ten for five exchange,
And it gives you long uncut hair, or makes you look like you have long uncut hair
And you know it's a friend, and it's a companion
And it gets rid of your tithes and offerings
It's new, it's improved, it's beyound-old-fashioned
Well it takes care of business, never needs winding,
Never needs winding, never needs winding
Gets rid of spiritualality, and the heartbreak of psoriasis,

C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
'Cause it's effective, it's defective, it creates home Bible studies,
It disinfects, it sanitizes for your outreach, are you traumatized?
It electrifies, and purifies, wakes up sleeping visitors in the pews
Why put up with painful Charismatic Televangelists any longer? The Pentecostals are here!

We give out redeemable coupons with every baptism, no obligation, no salesman will visit your home
We got a jackpot, jackpot, jackpot, prizes, prizes, prizes, all home missions guaranteed!
Come on down! The Pentecostals are in town!
How do we do it, how do we do it, how do we do it, how do we do it
We need your business, we're going to give you the business
We are the business!
Televangelisms our new business we learned John Maxwell's business
Receive our free brochure, free brochure
Read the easy-to-follow assembly instructions, batteries not included
Send before midnight tomorrow, terms available,
Step right up, step right up, step right up
You got it saint of God: the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away!!!
Step right up, you can step right up, you can step right up
C'mon step right up
(Get away from me Ultra Con, you bother me...)
Step right up, step right up, step right up, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
Step right up, you can step right up, c'mon and step right up,
C'mon and step right up
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado

Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard

Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:20 PM
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Very good you are so spiritual that you miss the point it's not about television, it's about an organization becoming commercialized. ...
That's an important concern and the one reason why I hesitated to be really an advocate of TV.

But aren't you expressing concern over content and not the medium itself? That's one reason many were looking for amendments - to control the content.

The UPC has a big opportunity to either reinvent televison evagelism, or to make themselves look silly.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:21 PM
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Bro. EB--
You know I don't agree with you on this, but I will have to say that post cracked me up. If you wrote that, you are very witty!
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:24 PM
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Very good you are so spiritual that you miss the point it's not about television, it's about an organization becoming commercialized.

Step right up, step right up, step right up,
Everyone's a winner, bargains galore
That's right, you too can be THE Pentecostals!
The quality goes in before the name goes on
One-tenth of a dollar, one-tenth of a dollar, we got services after services
You need Bible? we got Bibles, how 'bout a wedding ring?
Something for the little lady, something for the little lady,
Something for the little lady, hmm
Three for a dollar
We got a year-end clearance, we got a white raiment sale
And a free water baptism in whatever name you choose, you can sign your life away today
Act now, acts 2:38 now, and receive as our gift, our gift to you water proof baptismal robes
they come in all colors, one size fits all!
No muss, no fuss, no spills, you're tired of religious drudgery
Everything must go, going for your business, going for your business
Giving you the business sale!
Fifty percent off original retail price, skip the middle man, the preacher man!
Don't settle for less
How do we do it? how do we do it? volume, volume, turn up the volume, pump up the volume! Sunday School reports galore!!
Now you've heard it advertised, don't hesitate Pentecostalate
Don't be caught without your Mother's Day Memorial glow in the dark pen,
Don't be caught with without your Mother's Day Memorial glow in the darkness!
You can step right up, step right up, ready or not step right up, we are the Pentecostals will step you right up, and dunk you right in, remember fill out this little paper, and don't forget your adress, step right up!

That's right, it filets, it chops, it dices, slices,
Never stops, lasts an everlasting lifetime, mows your lawn
And it mows your lawn and it picks up the kids from school
It gets rid of unwanted standards, it gets rid of preachers,teachers, evangelists and reachers, It delivers a pizza, and it lengthens, and it strengthens

And it finds that hot stick that's been at large
under the chaise lounge for several weeks
And it plays a mean Hammond B-3 organ,
It spins your bow tie around your collar
And it's only a dollar, step right up, it's only a dollar, step right up

'It helps you speak in tongues, holds your hair in a bun,
If not completely satisfied, mail back unused portion of product
For complete refund of price of purchase
Step right up
Please allow forty days and forty nights for delivery, don't be fooled by cheap imitations
You can live in it, live in it, laugh in it, shout in it
Run the pews in it, sleep in the pews in it,
Live in it, pay your tithes in it, laugh in it, shout in it
Removes embarrassing liberal Charismatics from off your streets, that's right
And it entertains your Sunday school visitors, it turns a sandwich into a fellowship hall
Tired of being the life of the party?
Change your doctrine, change your life, change your life
Change into a nine-year-old Mormon boy, get rid of your presbyter,
And it walks your dog, and it doubles on sax
Doubles on sax, you can jump back Jack, see you later alligator
See you later Tommy Tenney
And it steals your tithes
It gets rid of your tithes, it causes Charismatics to quit smoking
It's a friend, and it's a companion,
And it's the only product you will ever need
Follow these easy assembly instructions it never needs ironing
Well it takes weight off your mind,
Gives you dandruff, and it finds you a job, it is a job
And it strips the vistors wallets, take ten for five exchange,
And it gives you long uncut hair, or makes you look like you have long uncut hair
And you know it's a friend, and it's a companion
And it gets rid of your tithes and offerings
It's new, it's improved, it's beyound-old-fashioned
Well it takes care of business, never needs winding,
Never needs winding, never needs winding
Gets rid of spiritualality, and the heartbreak of psoriasis,

C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
'Cause it's effective, it's defective, it creates home Bible studies,
It disinfects, it sanitizes for your outreach, are you traumatized?
It electrifies, and purifies, wakes up sleeping visitors in the pews
Why put up with painful Charismatic Televangelists any longer? The Pentecostals are here!

We give out redeemable coupons with every baptism, no obligation, no salesman will visit your home
We got a jackpot, jackpot, jackpot, prizes, prizes, prizes, all home missions guaranteed!
Come on down! The Pentecostals are in town!
How do we do it, how do we do it, how do we do it, how do we do it
We need your business, we're going to give you the business
We are the business!
Televangelisms our new business we learned John Maxwell's business
Receive our free brochure, free brochure
Read the easy-to-follow assembly instructions, batteries not included
Send before midnight tomorrow, terms available,
Step right up, step right up, step right up
You got it saint of God: the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away!!!
Step right up, you can step right up, you can step right up
C'mon step right up
(Get away from me Ultra Con, you bother me...)
Step right up, step right up, step right up, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon
Step right up, you can step right up, c'mon and step right up,
C'mon and step right up
Or Worldly?

Amen Bro.
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