Water baptism, can you agree with this statement?

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Not on this thread. It is specific to the opening question.

My bad didn't mean to hijack this thread.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Encryptus

But if the blood is applied at baptism, and the blood in applied three times.

Lord dunk
Jesus dunk
Christ dunk

Pity the poor man whose pastor loses count! Only 2/3 saved

Just immerse. Rinse and spin only when necessary.

In the area around Jerusalem the most likely places for Christian baptism in the early church were the numerous mikvah - or "plunge pools." There was usually only room for one person at a time and you usually had to go down some steps or a ladder into what amounted to a cistern.

The whole idea of some "else" baptizing the convert would be confused at best. No doubt someone at the top of the stairs officiated, but the whole act of being "buried" in the waters was accomplished by the convert himself/herself.

A lot of our traditions and mindsets don't always fit easily into the real picture of the ancient world.

[Scott Hutchinson]

It is quite difficult to read an eastern book with a western mindset.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Just immerse. Rinse and spin only when necessary.

In the area around Jerusalem the most likely places for Christian baptism in the early church was the numerous mikvah - or "plunge pools." There was usually only room for one person at a time and you usually had to go down some steps or a ladder into what amounted to a cistern.

The whole idea of some "else" baptizing the convert would be confused at best. No doubt someone at the top of the stairs officiated, but the whole act of being "buried" in the waters was accomplished by the convert himself/herself.

A lot of our traditions and mindsets don't always fit easily into the real picture of the ancient world.

Yep .... a real look at baptism of the ancient world would debunk the myths and fallacies.

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Yep .... a real look at baptism of the ancient world would debunk the myths and fallacies.

yes there are some amazing things when someone looks at the rites a gentile who converted to Judaism when through

[SDG]

Interesting. For what it's worth when the Jews have a gentile proselyte they circumcise them first and then baptize them by immersion.

It's worth a lot ... this means that circumcision comes before baptism.

Meaning ... Cornelius, under the New Covenant, had been quickened to life ... and circumcised of the heart prior to his baptism ....

It's no wonder Peter fussed with those who wanted physical circumcision in Acts 11 and 15.

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

How many times did the the Hebrews in Egypt apply blood to the entrance of the doorway to thier homes? I believe it was......... let me see here....... once to the left side of the door............once to the right side of the door..
....... and once to the top of the door..........hmmmmmm, if my math is correct, that would be three steppin. You don't want none Dan! step back!

Come on Easty when is the blood applied three times at baptism. One for each dunk?

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

It's worth a lot ... this means that circumcision comes before baptism.

Meaning ... Cornelius, under the New Covenant, had been quickened to life ... and circumcised of the heart prior to his baptism ....

It's no wonder Peter fussed with those who wanted physical circumcision in Acts 11 and 15.

But the 3 steppers in here seem to imply Cornelius got the HG on credit.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Encryptus

Come on Easty when is the blood applied three times at baptism. One for each dunk?

His analogy is also faulty because all three applications happen at once. Not over a period of time ...

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

His analogy is also faulty because all three applications happen at once. Not over a period of time ...

So they dunk three times real fast?