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Old 10-04-2007, 11:25 AM
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I bet some of those guys are spanish.
You see that a lot in our spanish churches...(group dancing)

In the Church I Pastor we have a tambourine/flag ministry
they do group dances. It's really popular in Spanish Churches
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:36 AM
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I bet some of those guys are spanish.
You see that a lot in our spanish churches...(group dancing)

In the Church I Pastor we have a tambourine/flag ministry
they do group dances. It's really popular in Spanish Churches
Maybe it was Spanish people, and that is fine. I am definitely not for dance/flag/group dances as a ministry within a church. They are coordinated dances that appeal to the flesh, and impress the eye, but we do not need sensual/sensational worship, but heartfelt spontaneous worship.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:00 PM
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Maybe it was Spanish people, and that is fine. I am definitely not for dance/flag/group dances as a ministry within a church. They are coordinated dances that appeal to the flesh, and impress the eye, but we do not need sensual/sensational worship, but heartfelt spontaneous worship.
I disagree with you. We definatly do not do this to appeal to the flesh.

The dances that we do have Jewish roots. Some of them have been performed since the days of David's Tabernacle (so we're told, by Jewish people)

It is a noted fact that choreographed dancing was used by the Jews as a form of worship to God.

I agree with the Amplified Bible when it says, "Praise Him with the timbrel and with the dance (one person or a group)

God loves coordinated worship as much as spontaneuos (IMO)
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Maybe it was Spanish people, and that is fine. I am definitely not for dance/flag/group dances as a ministry within a church. They are coordinated dances that appeal to the flesh, and impress the eye, but we do not need sensual/sensational worship, but heartfelt spontaneous worship.
You need to go to the mission field for awhile. Please.
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You need to go to the mission field for awhile. Please.
I'd like to know what is wrong with appealing to the flesh!! Everything we do appeals to the flesh!!

Don't believe me, just look at the decorations in the sanctuary!!! God doesn't care for all that stuff, including having lightbulbs!

Sheesh......LOL!
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I'd like to know what is wrong with appealing to the flesh!! Everything we do appeals to the flesh!!

Don't believe me, just look at the decorations in the sanctuary!!! God doesn't care for all that stuff, including having lightbulbs!

Sheesh......LOL!
No, she's right. If you plan it out at all then it's "in the flesh..." If you preach from notes, it's not "the Word of God" that's being preached.

If you "dance" without clenching your eyes shut and launching yourself out there mosh pit style, it's "in the flesh."

If you run the aisles without damaging the furniture you're carnal. If you've never given or received a fat lip, bruise or painful injury while doing the shockamoo you're "in the flesh."

If you're planning and saving for retirement and not casting lots (playing the lottery) then you don't really trust God.
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No, she's right. If you plan it out at all then it's "in the flesh..." If you preach from notes, it's not "the Word of God" that's being preached.

If you "dance" without clenching your eyes shut and launching yourself out there mosh pit style, it's "in the flesh."

If you run the aisles without damaging the furniture you're carnal. If you've never given or received a fat lip, bruise or painful injury while doing the shockamoo you're "in the flesh."

If you're planning and saving for retirement and not casting lots (playing the lottery) then you don't really trust God.
Pel, your post is funny, but there is a lot of truth in it (as some percieve it)
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I'd like to know what is wrong with appealing to the flesh!! Everything we do appeals to the flesh!!

Don't believe me, just look at the decorations in the sanctuary!!! God doesn't care for all that stuff, including having lightbulbs!

Sheesh......LOL!
NO AIR CONDITIONERS!!!!! NO INDOOR TOILETS!!!! That is PLEASING to the flesh. We need spontaneous sweating and difficulty using the bathroom--that is TRUE sacrifice.
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No, she's right. If you plan it out at all then it's "in the flesh..." If you preach from notes, it's not "the Word of God" that's being preached.

If you "dance" without clenching your eyes shut and launching yourself out there mosh pit style, it's "in the flesh."

If you run the aisles without damaging the furniture you're carnal. If you've never given or received a fat lip, bruise or painful injury while doing the shockamoo you're "in the flesh."

If you're planning and saving for retirement and not casting lots (playing the lottery) then you don't really trust God.
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NO AIR CONDITIONERS!!!!! NO INDOOR TOILETS!!!! That is PLEASING to the flesh. We need spontaneous sweating and difficulty using the bathroom--that is TRUE sacrifice.
You both are funny!

I just love it when people talk about how things that are appealing to the flesh is bad. If it was so bad, God wouldn't have created autumn!!!! The beauty of the Caribbean would be lost!

God didn't create all things for His benefit....but for ours. He created all things to appeal to our flesh. It's a good thing.
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