Oral Roberts University Leadership in Trouble

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Ooooh I'm real scared now. Boy oh boy I'm really shaking. How swift is swift?
Listen AB, here's your moment to shine, since you are calling a curse down upon us let's see if you are a prophet. Let's see if I die because of you calling judgement. Here we go boys and girls now it's time to see if the prophet has the anointing when he loosely makes statements.


Remember he said SWIFT and HARSH. Let the lighting bolts fly!



Oh please the drama.



Yeah Oral Roberts has set as many free as Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber.



If?



Of course, because you would be down on A1A with the rest of the tourists hanging out on the beach. AB, with his Ray Bans and his toes in the sand calling curses down on all the locals. While AB, is screaming out Evang.Benincasa, "I'm going to get you and your little dog too! Quickly release the flying monkeys!"




to pray because YOU would have to judge me first to bring me under your control.

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So you pick a man who lies when he needs money?




The real blessing Oral Roberts needs is to be baptized in Jesus name and to be in filled with the Holy Ghost with speaking in tongues. You should go and pray Oral Roberts through to snot bubbles and tears until he is speaking in tongues.[/QUOTE]

Ramblings....have your tried meds?

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Trouvere

Brother Beninhana...guess where I am going Friday? Abbeville.Look out look out.oloroid

LOLOLOL
Looks like I have started a new trend!

Tell me is this a chain?:spi t

[tamor]

Originally Posted by NLYP

Is there an eye roll icon anywhere....

Benny,
I know of Many that have done as you described and are heathens!

Bad choice of words on your part.

Here ya go.........

[triumphant1]

Originally Posted by Sherri

There is some kind of major lawsuit against Richard & Lindsay Roberts & other leaders by three government teachers/deans who were recently fired. The list of charges is HUGE, including misappropriation of funds, special favors and scholarships given to unqualified friends, etc. I really hope it's not true, and is just some vendetta by these teachers, but sadly I don't really doubt most of it. Ashley got a great education there, but there were some problems.

Maybe triumphant1 has more insights on this???????

I think that there may be some truth to some of the allegations but on the same token, I think many of the spending claims would probably fall under allowable housing allowances and stuff....not saying that there might be some extravagance...but I think that these particular teachers just have it in for Richard and the rest involved by the way they are coming across on the news here.

They are claiming some issues like using oru body guards for trips...well who else will travel with them if not the guards that are paid to watch them...does the Secret Service not go on vacation with the president?...do I think they always need a guard...don't know but there are plenty of kooks that follow them...Billy Joe doesn't have security...and he has gotten punched in the face in his own altar service...by a man that had verbally threatened Richard for years....

They are also claiming abuse of giving some of their kids friends entrance and scholarships into the school who didn't match the criteria....that is called "special student status" and all universities are allowed a certain percentage of those every year by the accreditation standards and all students are approved thru them...this is not uncommon.

Richard went on record yesterday at the chapel service and said that these profs are just disgruntled and the truth will vindicate the school and his family. It is interesting to note that this is not the only lawsuit brought by this attorney and he has not won any of the others according to Richard.

One thing they said was that the Roberts family uses the jet for personal stuff like a trip by their daughter for spring break...truth be told, it is their plane they should get to use it...

Do I think the Roberts get a lot...of course they do...but it was Oral Robert who built the school and Richards salary is not out of line with the other collage presidents in Oklahoma...

They also are griping about a mayoral election...republican of course...that one gripes me because these Democrats parade across University and Church platforms all across the nation while campaigning and no on seems to notice the tax exempt conflict there.....

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

If what BenniHanna has is TRUTH - I think I will pass on that!

Exactly me too!

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by Sherri

There is some kind of major lawsuit against Richard & Lindsay Roberts & other leaders by three government teachers/deans who were recently fired. The list of charges is HUGE, including misappropriation of funds, special favors and scholarships given to unqualified friends, etc. I really hope it's not true, and is just some vendetta by these teachers, but sadly I don't really doubt most of it. Ashley got a great education there, but there were some problems.

Maybe triumphant1 has more insights on this???????

sounds like some folks may have some flagpole sitting in their future.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

When I graduated from high school in 1987, I had a free ride for at least 4 years to ORU. But that was at the time of the, what we called the "million dollar death threat", and it was so shaky that I chose not to attend. (Now I wish I had.)

I'm not a big Oral Roberts fan, and I don't believe that he preaches the truth but I wouldn't be so quick to judge the man and the ministry that God has used from time to time. I've known people who were sick and even dying that have gone to his meetings and came home HEALED!!!

I don't agree with the was he does things, but I'm smart enough to know that I don't need to judge him. It wasn't him that did the healing anyway. God just used his faith and the faith of the person he was praying for.


I'm not saying that I agree with his ministry and what he preaches, but the Word is the Word and when it is mixed with faith, things can happen.

For some reason, the computer logged me out and put him in.....This was supposed to be under my login....LADYCOONSKINNER!!!!

I was going to say, that sounds like a softer side to Coonskinner that I hadn't heard before. LOL. But those are some excellent thoughts, especially about judgment.

[Sherri]

I think Oral Roberts is an honorable man of God. I think Richard and Lindsay "inherited" his position only because of Richard's dad and not because they have done anything to deserve it. I doubt if O.R. even knows what is happening; I hope they have kept it from him. I saw him on TV a few months back and the man is very anointed. I have NEVER gotten anything from Richard & Lindsay's show though.

I hope this whole mess is just a result of some disgruntled professors who have lost their jobs. I read a lot of comments by students and former students; they seem to have opinions as far as the east is from the west!!

Since this is a private university and not a public one, I'm not sure if they can be held accountable for funds used, even if they used them without wisdom. Do the Roberts actually own ORU? If so, then I guess they can do whatever they want with the funds, even if we would consider it unwise or even unscrupulous. It's kind of like a pastor who can get all the tithe. He can either use it wisely or he can abuse it.

Just my thoughts...

I still wouldn't trade Ashley's years there; it was an awesome place to study!

[LadyCoonskinner]

Maybe I was trying to sike everybody out...J/K..

Sorry, I don't know what happened. I about flipped when I saw that I had posted "under" his name.

But then when I saw it, I started laughing thinking, "man they will have a hey day with this one."

[ChTatum]

Well, well, well....

Would lying include those who teach extra-biblical requirements as necessary for salvation?


Hello, Mr. Pot, meet Mr. Kettle.