Ouestion for those staying in the UPC - Page 4

Ferd · #31 10-08-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoman

Are you wanting to go back to the blueprint?????????

Ivorytickler, that has always been my driveing obsession.

Truly Blessed · #32 10-08-2007, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I highly respect TB for his honesty and integrity but no I am sorry I could not belong to a group that allowed preacher to preach one could be saved without obeying Acts 2:38. Evidently the UPC is returning to the 'merger agreement' days which many will not be able to tolerate.

You have to be saved to identify with Christ and receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, which is given to the SONS of God as an inheritance. I have yet to find a sinner who wanted to be baptized or received the gift of the Holy Ghost. There´s a reason for that!

Sandra · #33 10-08-2007, 12:24 PM

I am staying , I love my church here in Denham Springs (First Pentecostal Church)

Ferd · #34 10-08-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandra

I am staying , I love my church here in Denham Springs (First Pentecostal Church)

where is that EEEK smiley? LOL!

tv1a · #35 10-08-2007, 12:29 PM

Preachers have a habit of doing that. Then talking about the person who took the initiative to help the person.

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Just so happens that TB prayed a Spanish lady sitting behind us up in the balcony through to speaking in tongues at Gen. Conf. on Sunday night.

Now why would he bother doing that if he doesn't think people NEED this?

Most of the other PAJC (just a guess they were - maybe they weren't really - hehe

) preachers were sitting around watching.

Hmmmm..................

Truly Blessed · #36 10-08-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

That is the underlying reason. I could NEVER hold license with a group that teaches men could be saved without obeying Acts 2:38 in this dispensation. And many in the UPC was raised the same and were ignorant concerning the toleration of the other view that is just a fact. This is NOT 1948 and most of those men are dead and the emphasis is not the same. If it reverts the defection will be even more. However I guess an organization of some type will already be in place to recieve them?

Can you explain to me how someone obeys receiving a gift from someone? The issue is not whether someone believes one should repent and be baptized, but why they should do so. As for the baptism of the Holy Ghost, it´s a gift of spiritual empowerment given to those who walk in obedience to the Word of God not a requirement to enter into a relationship with God. We get that by grace through faith. If the PAJCers would get their theology straightened out it would resolve many of the problems in the UPCI.

Rhymis · #37 10-08-2007, 12:38 PM

If nominated I will not run -- if elected I will not serve.

Rhymis · #38 10-08-2007, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Can you explain to me how someone obeys receiving a gift from someone? The issue is not whether someone believes one should repent and be baptized, but why they should do so. As for the baptism of the Holy Ghost, it´s a gift of spiritual empowerment given to those who walk in obedience to the Word of God not a requirement to enter into a relationship with God. We get that by grace through faith. If the PAJCers would get their theology straightened out it would resolve many of the problems in the UPCI.

Silly me, I thought it said, "he GIVES the Holy Ghost to them that OBEY Him."
Act 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.