***Bombshell: ALJC vs. NCO Battle Royale: The NCO/AWCF strike back ***

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by papapraiz

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Bishop Rowe was a protege of Haywood-Tobin a Bishop in the PAW for years and in the UPC in the early years. But in the early 50's he got off into this teaching. The late R.C. Cavaness said he was one of the greatest teachers he ever heard. Back then at Midway they had over a 1,000 folks. It was sad he died broken he felt he would pull a large number out but he did not althoug he affected a few like Bishop Hancock of Detroit. Bishop Little who was the original secretary of the AWCF was out of Hancock's church I asked him on the platform of Melvin's Boyd's church at Nashville if he was Oneness he went around the barn several times and never answered. This movement is a joke it is an umbrella for:
Adam doctrine
Spiritual Communion doctrine
Divine Flesh doctrine
that was founded by a man who taught 2 in the Godhead and the secretary believed the same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
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I have heard this term used recently after a church communion service. What is SPIRITUAL COMMUNION?

Does anyone know the origin of this doctrine and how is it refuted?

The teaching is this in simple terms:
1. The last supper was nothing more than the annual passover observed by Jesus and nothing new was instituted there.
2. There is no observance of the Lord's supper in the NT church the breaking of bread is preaching and the blood is fellowship in the Spirit.
3. The communion service is from the Catholic church.
It was borrowed by some Oneness men in Arkansas from the School of Prophet movement in the 30's and 40's.
There is an organization called "The Associated Brotherhood of Christians" out of Hot Springs, Ark. They are members of the AWCF. The group is mainly located in Ark.-Mo.-Ms.-Ky.-Tn.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

The teaching is this in simple terms:
1. The last supper was nothing more than the annual passover observed by Jesus and nothing new was instituted there.
2. There is no observance of the Lord's supper in the NT church the breaking of bread is preaching and the blood is fellowship in the Spirit.
3. The communion service is from the Catholic church.
It was borrowed by some Oneness men in Arkansas from the School of Prophet movement in the 30's and 40's.
There is an organization called "The Associated Brotherhood of Christians" out of Hot Springs, Ark. They are members of the AWCF. The group is mainly located in Ark.-Mo.-Ms.-Ky.-Tn.

This is the Adam doctrine? What does it have to do w/ Adam? Can't see the hell or heaven issue w/ this teaching?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

This is the Adam doctrine? What does it have to do w/ Adam? Can't see the hell or heaven issue w/ this teaching?

G. B. Rowe taught that Jesus was actually Adam in the Garden Eden and he had to come and die for the sin he committed as Adam thus was NOT God until the river of Jordan then revised it until the resurrection then finally taught Jesus Was NOT God but the Son of God thus two in the Godhead. Jesus was baptized FOR the remission of his sin and filled with the Spirit. Pure heresy. He was disfellowshipped in the early 50's. His son Worthy was the founder of AWCF. Bishop G. B. Rowe was a protege of Haywood & Tobin
he was a PAW Bishop then also was on the PAJC board when the merger took place.

[papapraiz]

Thank you for this insight.

A man I know believes this "spiritual communion doctrine" and made it public to someone else last Sunday during our communion service.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

G. B. Rowe taught that Jesus was actually Adam in the Garden Eden and he had to come and die for the sin he committed as Adam thus was NOT God until the river of Jordan then revised it until the resurrection then finally taught Jesus Was NOT God but the Son of God thus two in the Godhead. Jesus was baptized FOR the remission of his sin and filled with the Spirit. Pure heresy. He was disfellowshipped in the early 50's. His son Worthy was the founder of AWCF. Bishop G. B. Rowe was a protege of Haywood & Tobin
he was a PAW Bishop then also was on the PAJC board when the merger took place.

OH ... I see ... thought you were referring to the teachings of the Lord's Supper ... I can see the heresy w/ the teaching you have now described ... Jesus is both God and the Son of God. To say that Jesus "needed" baptism to be saved is also heresy ... just as those who teach baptism causes salvation.

[Sister Alvear]

My mother and daddy were first converted in a spiritual communion church. They teach that good workls is washing the saints feet. They teach about humbleness.
The ones I know are very good people but I feel they are wrong. Years ago...many years ago they were strict outward holiness but I don't know if any are that anymore.

If it had not been for a baby sitter that took my sister and I to church I doubt if my folks or us would have ever known the Lord. Later God gave mother a dream she was just a young christian and we changed churches. A SC church was a bridge for my mother to come to God. I will always respect their efforts but I do not believe that doctrine.

blessings to all.

[SDG]

The twonity teaching greatly affected the church in Colombia ... in the late 80's - early 90's. They had big rift when their former GS [Campos Elias?] supported it.

[papapraiz]

I am concerned about this and plan to speak with him soon.

How would you go about refuting this doctrine?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by papapraiz

I am concerned about this and plan to speak with him soon.

How would you go about refuting this doctrine?

1. Jesus clearly said "THIS DO" speaking of the bread and the fruit of the vine to remember HIS death not the passover remembering the exodus from Egypt.
2. Paul clearly teaches the Lord's Supper continuing some 40 years after the Supper in the gospels.
3. The doctrine of Transubstation has NOTHING to do with the Lord's supper thus it is a strawman.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

1. Jesus clearly said "THIS DO" speaking of the bread and the fruit of the vine to remember HIS death not the passover remembering the exodus from Egypt.
2. Paul clearly teaches the Lord's Supper continuing some 40 years after the Supper in the gospels.
3. The doctrine of Transubstation has NOTHING to do with the Lord's supper thus it is a strawman.

Amen Elder! The fact that Paul was teaching about them physically eating shows very clearly that it was physically being done in the New Testament church.