Ezek 16:8-17

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I know you all have heard more standards theads then ya can shake a stick at but I am honestly trying to get a better understanding, so please help me out with the below scripture. Thanks




Ezek 16:8-17

8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.
11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.
12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.
13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.
14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord GOD.
15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.
17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,
KJV

If ornaments are so wrong why did God say I decked thee with ornaments, bracelets, necklace and even earrings??

IN the OT God at times suffered things like polygamy-divorce-vengence-concubines-jewelry.
However at points of consecration in the OT they took their jewelry off and the majority of the times it is used in reference to pagans that had it.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

IN the OT God at times suffered things like polygamy-divorce-vengence-concubines-jewelry.
However at points of consecration in the OT they took their jewelry off and the majority of the times it is used in reference to pagans that had it.

Right ....

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

One prob I have with earrings is it's self mutilation, but I can't deny what Ezekial says "I decked thee with......"

I've heard it said that's speaking spiritually, but if so why would even use something that suppose to me sinful and vain to describe what he decking his people with??


Even the New Jerusalem city which is the church and now is, is decribed as being as wife adorned for her husband.

They soon be calling you liberal. J/K
You bring some very important questions to bear on the subject. Most folks study to affirm predetermined ideas. That is wrong, we should study to know the heart and mind of God. If we read about the Jerusalem conference that was to determined what the apostles would require of the new Gentile believers we do not find many of the extra biblical ideas espoused about.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

IN the OT God at times suffered things like polygamy-divorce-vengence-concubines-jewelry.
However at points of consecration in the OT they took their jewelry off and the majority of the times it is used in reference to pagans that had it.

That's a point to consider for sure, but it's not just something they did , but God did "I decked thee with"


It never says, that I know of, I give then 10 wives as in he himself gave them. Am I making sense.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Some would say he created cocaine too.

Yet He did not adore His people with cocaine or approve it's use.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by crakjak

They soon be calling you liberal. J/K

yeah, I know, but I'm just trying to be objective and let the scriptures quide me. I have no deesire for the stuff or to see it on my wife, but scripture has to be the standard.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Yet He did not adore His people with cocaine or approve it's use.

right, so it is with jewels??

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

IN the OT God at times suffered things like polygamy-divorce-vengence-concubines-jewelry.
However at points of consecration in the OT they took their jewelry off and the majority of the times it is used in reference to pagans that had it.

Like when Moses was on the mount? Don't think that was consecration to the one true God.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

yeah, I know, but I'm just trying to be objective and let the scriptures quide me. I have no deesire for the stuff or to see it on my wife, but scripture has to be the standard.

Truthseeker ... that's what many are saying .... You are a priest in your own home but to legislate some these "standards" as God's Word ... is not flying anymore.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

right, so it is with jewels??

As He did with jewels, yes that is right. Jewelry like many things can be idolatry, but is not in and of itself.