The Engaging Church

Malvaro · #1 10-19-2007, 07:38 AM

Yesterday, I attended a church growth seminar in Birmingham, AL.

One word can sum it all up:

OUTSTANDING!

I thoroughly enjoyed the material that they taught and was able to
clearly see the gaping holes that plague many Pentecostal churches
nationwide in regards to keeping and integrating our guests.

http://www.outreachtraining.com/engagingchurch.htm

SoCaliUPC · #2 10-19-2007, 09:50 AM

Another non-Oneness method being incorporated into our churches.......

Malvaro · #3 10-19-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Another non-Oneness method being incorporated into our churches.......

I'm an advocate of no-nonsense Biblical principles.... regardless of who may or may
not like them.... they brought good material to the table.... no regrets here....

I was going to offer info via PM; perhaps it would be better not to *pollute* anyone....

SDG · #4 10-19-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Malvaro

I'm an advocate of no-nonsense Biblical principles.... regardless of who may or may
not like them.... they brought good material to the table.... no regrets here....

Be sure to thank the Trinnies.

Malvaro · #5 10-19-2007, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Be sure to thank the Trinnies.

I did thank one of the *trinny* key-note speakers for sharing the material....

Most of the main-stream church leadership books are written by trinnies.... they have LOTS of great info, one can easily seperate the true spiritual wisdom they describe from their false doctrinal "salvation" message....

not sure why this was even brought up....

were you just saying that for the following effect: Trinnies: 1 OP: 0

rgcraig · #6 10-19-2007, 11:10 AM

Sounds great!

We many times have the reason for church all mixed up - Pastor Cupples just said this weekend that church is for the lost, not the saved!

Any help in getting the lost to where they need to be is good help!

#7 10-19-2007, 11:30 AM

When I first read the title, I thought this was going to be a church where people got hooked up with a mate!

Joseph Miller · #8 10-19-2007, 11:47 AM

I have no problem with using trinity people for ideas on church growth and follow up.

I am putting together some material on follow up and it is based on principles I learned when I worked in sales.

I agree with the author's statements about being able to seperate spiritual wisdom and the false doctrine on salvation they teach. If you can't do this then you don't belong in leadership yet.

SoCaliUPC · #9 10-19-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Malvaro

not sure why this was even brought up....

were you just saying that for the following effect: Trinnies: 1 OP: 0

Oh I think one of the reasons it was probably brought up was because after the whole "Purpose Driven Church" was out there and some OP churches were putting in some aspects of that....the "rage" at the time was....why are OP going to them for growth when they should be coming to us?

dizzyde · #10 10-19-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Oh I think one of the reasons it was probably brought up was because after the whole "Purpose Driven Church" was out there and some OP churches were putting in some aspects of that....the "rage" at the time was....why are OP going to them for growth when they should be coming to us?

Because a lot of of our methods are stuck in the dark ages. We live in different times, people live busier lives than ever before, and we have to be willing to learn new methods. We have expanded our horizons locally and are starting to see an incredible pay-off. Through non-traditionals methods.