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Old 10-23-2007, 09:53 AM
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You have shared some important considerations, bishoph. One thing that puzzles me however is why do so many present day "old timers" decry events of today but they don't look at their own foundations.

Much of what some "old timers" advocate is really an innovation from the 1940's and 50's. The Apostolic movement went through a considerable change at that time, it was revolutionary. Now when someone speaks out and pleads for a return to the even older ways - doctrinal tolerance vis-à-vis the UPC fundamental doctrine; a soteriology base solely upon the work of Jesus Christ and reasonable latitude on differing applications of personal holiness, they are said to be "falling away."

It's really the innovators of 50 and 60 years ago, and their disciples that represent the falling away. Look through our records, follow the paper trail of change represented by various resolutions and additions to the Articles of Faith (I'm speaking specifically of the UPC here, but the same holds true for all Apostolic orgs that date back to around WW2 and before).

I remember sitting at a social gathering of "conservative" preachers. One "old timer" said something about "the old paths" and "the old timers..." One elderly rascal in the crowd- an even older old timer asked, "By 'old timer' do you mean like back when they all had beards?" The room went dead with silence. You could have heard a pin drop in the other room.

The oldest of the old timers remembered an even older time and an even older revival. I'm rather curious why the young people of that time were allowed to become the apostates who now demand that a younger generation join in their rebellion. The whole thing looks like a roller coaster ride to me. I long for the stability and strength that comes from being rooted and grounded in the Apostle's faith.
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Thank you for your response. I agree with you that the "old paths or old times" I'm referring to are not the "old" of 50, 60, or even 100 years ago. What I am earnestly contending for is the foundations of truth and clarity of principle that was established by the Jesus and the Apostles. While all traditions are not bad, they are much to fluid to build anything of substance on.
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