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Old 03-05-2007, 10:43 AM
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Mich,

Sounds like you are doing good! So happy for your weight loss and jealous too!

I think you are on to something regarding your spirituality - - it makes sense to me and I think it's a good thing.

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Old 03-05-2007, 10:50 AM
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Hi Ladies (And Ron)

I know I haven't been around much. I just can't seem to muster up any enthusiam to discuss the same old junk that I have discussed at several other forums for the past 3 years.

But I do miss you guys and so I thought I would at least stop in Gabby's and say "Hey"

"Hey"

Let's see what's new with me....

Diet is going well. The past 3 months (Dec, Jan & Feb) were kind of a wash. I wasn't eating the best, but was consistent with my exercise, and so didn't lose any weight (but didn't gain either!).

I am finally back on track and have started losing again. My big goal is to reach 100 pounds lost, by my 1 year anniversary (June 1st). I have to lose about 1.5 pounds a week for the remaining 12 weeks and that should totally be possible.


Spiritually, things are going well as well. Though, they might not appear so on the outside. God has really been opening up my mind to a lot of things, and so many questions and such about myself, the world, and Christianity in general that have been plagueing me for the past 3 years. If not an understanding, I am least learning how to live peacefully in the middle ground between knowing everything and doubting everything.

That probably doesn't make a lot of sense to you, but it does to me, which I suppose is the important part

For the first time in a long time, having a relationship with Jesus seems like a priviledge and not a burden. Though I suppose some ultra cons (when they realize that I have gone "liberal") would probably say that It's not of Jesus at all, and to them I just say

Mich, did you ever settle down into a church? Just curious. Sounds like you are doing good!!! Keep up the dieting!! I'll be right there with ya in a few months. I am currently on a "diet" for my pregnancy diabetes and it is the pits! Lol!!! But at least it is already putting me in the diet midset, maybe now it won't be so hard after I have the baby to continue on.
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Old 03-05-2007, 10:55 AM
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Nothing against you liberals but....

Kyle the young man I have requested prayer for a few times called my husband last week and was asking him why we don't believe in wearing jewlry, so my husband gave him a few scriptures. Kyle still didn't agree and my husband wasn't going to push him, he just told him to pray about it and to work it out for himself, and that if he didn't feel the need to give up his earings not to. Well, Saturday Kyle called my husband back and said that he had been praying about it and he found a scripture that my husband had not used that when he read it he understood and he felt the need to get rid of all his jewlry. So, he brought it all with him Sunday to church and threw it away. I thought was awesome, he is learning to pray about things and use his own judgement which is the way it should be. His earrings were his "god" so to speak which is why I feel he was convicted over them. He thought they were "the stuff" Lol! We all have different areas that we need to weed out in our life and for each of us it is a different area.
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:12 PM
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Mich, did you ever settle down into a church? Just curious. Sounds like you are doing good!!! Keep up the dieting!! I'll be right there with ya in a few months. I am currently on a "diet" for my pregnancy diabetes and it is the pits! Lol!!! But at least it is already putting me in the diet midset, maybe now it won't be so hard after I have the baby to continue on.
I go to church about twice a month. Not sure if that qualifies as "settling down" or not.

I'm not sure if I can explain it, but in a big part church has been part of my problem, and when I would go there to find answers, I would just leave with more questions.

That doesn't mean that I don't think church is necessary, that I don't need it, or that it's no good...I don't think that. exactly. It's just that the current church model doesn't seem to work for me. We seem to be like oil and water. But that's not to say that I think everyone should see things my way, because honestly, it seems to work for a lot of people.

Let me backup for a minute and say that my New Year's resolution this year was to throw out everything else and just concentrate on one question: "Who is Jesus?" Because they through is, that somewhere in the midst of all the stuff, church, programs, doctrine, standards, and everything, that seems to have gotten lost.

Several months ago I came to an amazing conclusion (With a lot of help from NFCF..LOL) there are not 2 people in the entire world that believe exactly the same when it comes to religion. None. They always disagree in at least one tiny part. Therefore, it stands to reason that no one is 100% correct. Everyone is at least partially wrong.

There is a slight miniscule chance that 1 person could be right. But it would be the very height of arrogance for me to think that I was that person. Or for anyone to claim it for that matter.

Once I realized that, it became extremely hard for me to get much out of preaching. Because after all, it was just the opinion ("interpretation") of one man, who I already knew was wrong in at least 1 thing.

I guess to explain why that had such an impact on me, you would need to realize that from the moment I was saved, I truly believed that if I just studied enough, read enough books, listened to enough preaching, and read every single Bible version in the world, that eventually, someday, I would have all the answers. I really honestly believed that.

But my search for answers only led to more questions. Unfortunately the Apostolic faith is not one that is known for encouraging healthy questioning. So I convinced myself that questions equaled lack of faith equaled doubt equaled being in danger of hell.

So back to my resolution...to toss all that aside, all the junk that I didn't know how to deal with, and just concentrate on one question "who is Jesus?"

See, I was so busy concentrating on what would or would not send me to hell, that I somehow lost sight of something that was once the most important thing to me in the world. The Person who was once my best friend and greatest hope, had someone turned into Someone that I viewed with mistrust, anger and sometimes downright contempt.

Oh, I wouldn't have acknowledged that outright, but it was true all the same.

Some people will call me a liberal, some a backslider, others deceived or carnal or worldly. But that no longer bothers me at all. Because the only thing that matters is; "who is Jesus?"

For the first time in years, I feel such peace. I no longer worry constantly about going to hell, because It didn't matter how good I was or how many rules I followed, I always worried it wasn't enough. I was always pretty sure that I was going to hell, no matter how much I prayed or read my Bible or went to church. (One of the reasons God made me so mad...nothing was ever enough for Him...or so I thought, anyway).

This probably makes no sense what-so-ever, unless you have also experienced the same thing. But rest assured any who may be concerned, that I am in a good place, and am actually enjoying my search.
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Old 03-05-2007, 02:21 PM
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Mich, I understand completely! I have also had many questions in the past year, so far I think I have only had about 50% of them answered, I am still praying and seeking answers to the rest. I am happy for you that you have found "peace" in what you believe, we are all backsliders to somebody! Ha! Like you said NO ONE believes the same way and I am so glad that I have realized that. I am no longer judgemental like I was before NFCF, it helped me in many ways. I have learned that everyone must walk at their own pace with thier own convictions not by a man's rule that is there "just because". And I truly believe that each individual will have different lines that need not to be crossed. I wish you luck as you continue your search for a church (if I understood correctly that you are still looking).
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:17 PM
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Mich, thanks for posting. I understand where you are coming from very well. I know that for many years I worried that I would never be "good enough" to make it to heaven. It was only when I realized that I never would be good enough - and that the only reason I can be assured of a place in heaven is because of how good JESUS is - that I finally found out what real peace is.

I prayed and prayed and prayed about the standards issue. I really wanted to believe in them and to understand them. But no matter what I read or how willing I wanted to be, they just didn't. Not to me anyway. One day when I was praying, I really felt like I understood the Lord to say to me, "If you are depending on what you wear to get you into or keep you out of heaven, you are wrong. The only reason anyone will make it is because of ME. Because of MY sacrifice. Because of MY grace. And for you to try to do it on your own by being "good enough", well, it will just never work. It's making a mockery of my sacrifice on the cross." OUCH!!!

That doesn't mean that I believe that if people live standards they are wrong. NO WAY!! If they live standards in order to earn heaven, then yes, I do believe they are wrong. However, if someone lives standards because they love God and they believe that living standards will be pleasing in His site - if that is their motivation - then I honor them. Those folks absolutely should live the standards.
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Old 03-05-2007, 07:57 PM
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Great post Margie3! I whole- heartily agree with you. I was going to post that it sounds like Michi has discovered the Grace of God. I have been pondering for some time that we Pentecostals have skipped over the Grace of God. I think our preachers shy away from the issue, because it may appear to make the walk seem too easy! Duh----- It is easy when we understand that we can never earn or work our way to a reward - He paid the price on Calvary. He give His Grace freely to anyone who will accept it.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:48 AM
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Mich, thanks for posting. I understand where you are coming from very well. I know that for many years I worried that I would never be "good enough" to make it to heaven. It was only when I realized that I never would be good enough - and that the only reason I can be assured of a place in heaven is because of how good JESUS is - that I finally found out what real peace is.

I prayed and prayed and prayed about the standards issue. I really wanted to believe in them and to understand them. But no matter what I read or how willing I wanted to be, they just didn't. Not to me anyway. One day when I was praying, I really felt like I understood the Lord to say to me, "If you are depending on what you wear to get you into or keep you out of heaven, you are wrong. The only reason anyone will make it is because of ME. Because of MY sacrifice. Because of MY grace. And for you to try to do it on your own by being "good enough", well, it will just never work. It's making a mockery of my sacrifice on the cross." OUCH!!!

That doesn't mean that I believe that if people live standards they are wrong. NO WAY!! If they live standards in order to earn heaven, then yes, I do believe they are wrong. However, if someone lives standards because they love God and they believe that living standards will be pleasing in His site - if that is their motivation - then I honor them. Those folks absolutely should live the standards.

Amen!! Well said!
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:51 AM
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Good Morning Everyone!!! Yet another day closer! I stood up this morning and felt like the baby was literally falling out of me - I guess I can say it has dropped down into the correct position - which is good yet uncomfortable!! I go yet again to the doctor today, hopefully they will give me a good report on my blood sugar levels. Sometimes when I check it it is high and other times it is low - so overall I don't know if it is good or bad. We'll see I guess.

I hope everyone is having a wonderful morning!!!
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Old 03-06-2007, 07:27 AM
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Morning Ladies. Having a rough morning already--sometimes husbands can be insensitive jerks. LOL

Has anyone read The Purpose Driven Life? I picked it up Friday and it looks interesting.
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