(((NEWS FLASH))) ALJC & UPC Merger Talks pick up Steam? - Page 5

Sam · #41 10-25-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor

I can confirm 100% that this was NOT talked about AT ALL at the ALJC's recent General Board meetings (held around Oct 10th or so)

Whatever meeting was held at Ursan School has happened before. Bro. Bernard mentioned it in a sermon a year or two ago. The UPC, ALJC, PAW and others were involved. So this is not the first time Urshan hosts that kind of event.

I would think there would be problems with UPC, PAW, ALJC, and other OP organizations working together because preachers leave one group and join another so there may be bad feelings against them by folks in the organization they left. They may have left "under question." Also, folks move from church to church in a town and pastors world have bad feelings toward one another. Then, the UPC manual says that permission is required from a UPC pastor for someone to come in to preach in any other church in "his" city.

Sam · #42 10-25-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I think Bishop G. D. Peters of Kingsport helped to form it?

If that's the organization Bishop Peters was in, I think I stumbled onto their web site once. About the only things i remember was that it was not a very large group and that Deon Turner was in it. Deon had been part of the ALJC church that I went to back in the nineteen sixties and seventies but he had left there and gone to Bristol, Virginia or Tennessee wherever it was and started a church. I think there was something different about their belief about communion but I'm not sure now.

stmatthew · #43 10-25-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

If that's the organization Bishop Peters was in, I think I stumbled onto their web site once. About the only things i remember was that it was not a very large group and that Deon Turner was in it. Deon had been part of the ALJC church that I went to back in the nineteen sixties and seventies but he had left there and gone to Bristol, Virginia or Tennessee wherever it was and started a church. I think there was something different about their belief about communion but I'm not sure now.

Yes, this is the same group. It was a loose fellowship made up of several men. It seems like Ron Libby had a hand in it also. It could just be that he preached at one of their events.

Joseph Miller · #44 10-25-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Yes, this is the same group. It was a loose fellowship made up of several men. It seems like Ron Libby had a hand in it also. It could just be that he preached at one of their events.

Are you guys talking about the IAF?

stmatthew · #45 10-25-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

Are you guys talking about the IAF?

Yes

Joseph Miller · #46 10-25-2007, 10:59 PM

The IAF is not an organization. There are people who are members of it that are in various organizations. As a matter of fact, one of the livingstons pastor a UPC church in Nashville and also is with the IAF.

Sam · #47 10-26-2007, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

The IAF is not an organization. There are people who are members of it that are in various organizations. As a matter of fact, one of the livingstons pastor a UPC church in Nashville and also is with the IAF.

If a UPCI licensed or ordained minister also belongs to another group like IAF, is that considered a violation of the rules in the Manual?

Joseph Miller · #48 10-26-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

If a UPCI licensed or ordained minister also belongs to another group like IAF, is that considered a violation of the rules in the Manual?

I don't think so. The IAF is just a fellowship and not an organization.

nwlife · #49 10-27-2007, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Well than we could all hash and rehash and dissect the letter.

Well if they did send a letter, it was only to the pastors, as being licensed in the ALJC I never recieved anything about any possible merger.

stmatthew · #50 10-27-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

If a UPCI licensed or ordained minister also belongs to another group like IAF, is that considered a violation of the rules in the Manual?

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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

I don't think so. The IAF is just a fellowship and not an organization.

I believe you are correct. A UPC man can be a part of the AWCF, IAF, or any other group that simply is a fellowship.

This was a thought on the Tulsa group at one point I believe. If they decided to go with a loose fellowship, they could still hold their license with the UPC without going against the bylaws.