I do not teach "basic Oneness Hall/Bernard" theology at Church Alive. I have never believed it and have never taught it. I do teach that Jesus Christ is God manifest in the Flesh. I teach that God, who is an omnipresent Spirit and has not flesh, bones and blood, took on human flesh and blood and gave himself as a sacrifice for the sin of mankind and that we can only be saved or redeemed from sin if we repent of our sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who is the Flesh/Son of God. I have always taught that there is only One God and His revealed name in the earth is the Lord Jesus Christ. I have always taught that God was IN Christ - reconciling the world unto Himself. I believe that we enter into Covenant with God in the waters of Baptism when we take on the Name of Jesus Christ. I believe that the Baptism of the Holy Ghost is a free gift from our Father and that we will speak in a supernatural language and manifest the fruit of the Spirit when we are filled to overflowing with God's Power. We will then be witnesses of the Lordship of Jesus Christ.
These are things that I teach but I do not take a message to preach this to the attenders of Church Alive. I teach this to Leadership. We deal with things like this in classes. When I preach or teach a message to the entire assembly - I construct those messages - to MINISTER to the people. Over half of our attendees are also in Leadership Classes.
I did not say I "believed in another teaching of Oneness other than Bernard's". I do not believe that one, two or three men or a committee can define God for an entire movement and then if you do not agree with their theology - you don't "believe the TRUTH". What they teach is Oneness Pentecostal Denominational Theology and I do not believe one can put God in a box and define him and confine him to one's own sectarian and elitist views.
God is bigger and Greater than all of us!
Thank you, AB. I misunderstood you.
Why do you come across so adversarial at times about these things?
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I really don't agree with this HO. I was "solid" on the doctrine. I have let go of both but only sort of. I just see it differently now. But in many minds here different= evil
I'm referring to people who quit church thinking that being a good person is all that's needed. Not just those who might see things differently yet remaining in the same beliefs. I've seen people who not only drop standards, but they drop God. I should have made that more clear.
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I'm sorry you struggle this way, HO. Probably because my family accepts me for who I am....I don't have an issue with this.
Thanks. Someday, I will be able to say that I've arrived....LOL!
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
Why do you come across so adversarial at times about these things?
I been misunderstood before!
Pray fer me - I been 'buked and scorned and criticized and scandalized and beaten with a wet noodle till I am about half dead. It has affected my mind and I am only two votes away now - from being TOTALLY THREE GODS or Trinitarinism. I appreciate your admonishment to keep on the firing line!
I am so inspired - I think I will go back to preaching against red shoes and Mickey Mouse Watches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm referring to people who quit church thinking that being a good person is all that's needed. Not just those who might see things differently yet remaining in the same beliefs. I've seen people who not only drop standards, but they drop God. I should have made that more clear.
I don't understand why people drop God completely. I feel like the disciples who said "Where would we go?" I don't understand everything, but indeed....where would we go??
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People are saying this isn't about standards......but how else is the PAW "guilty" besides letting up on standards??? What other comparision is being made?? HOw can the UPC avoid the destiny of thye PAW???
i dont know where you got standards from what I posted. Doctrine is the deal for me.
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I felt so bad about the slippery slope I was on - going to the dogs and complete Trinitarianism and Three God doctrine and being baptized three ways backwards that I took a vote of my General Board and by just THREE VOTES - I am back to being an Apostolictic Clean Shaven Preacher (on the forum only). I am about to RE-baptize myself (or does it have to be genuine certified LICENSED Organizational White sleeves only preacher man that has to do it?) one way forward in Running water and need to know EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO SAY! Could I get some preachers to post the EXACT WORDING that will make it all LEGAL? I sure don't want to be lost on a technicality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Socks or No Socks?
After the UPCI becomes trinitarian, the next step is to be assimilated into the Catholic church.
After that, I guess they go Muslim!!
First you advertise on TV, and the next thing you know....you're Muslim!!
Perfect UC thinking! (Good one, bro).
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I felt so bad about the slippery slope I was on - going to the dogs and complete Trinitarianism and Three God doctrine and being baptized three ways backwards that I took a vote of my General Board and by just THREE VOTES - I am back to being an Apostolictic Clean Shaven Preacher (on the forum only). I am about to RE-baptize myself (or does it have to be genuine certified LICENSED Organizational White sleeves only preacher man that has to do it?) one way forward in Running water and need to know EXACTLY WHAT I NEED TO SAY! Could I get some preachers to post the EXACT WORDING that will make it all LEGAL? I sure don't want to be lost on a technicality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Socks or No Socks?
The reason some are concerned is they are Control Freaks.
Exactly.
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