You may have a point, but this won't work in towns with more than one Apostolic church. I believe this may be one of the reasons that kent Smith believes that a healing should take place. Growth will not happen where there is bitterness caused by division.
You may have a point, but this won't work in towns with more than one Apostolic church. I believe this may be one of the reasons that kent Smith believes that a healing should take place. Growth will not happen where there is bitterness caused by division.
Not to get all technical and such, but a good bit of the division has has been caused by bitterness.
I think that ship has already sailed even if everyone decides to stay in the UPCI.
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I cannot provide you with stats. (thats okay, you don't have to agree with it) I recieved the knowledge of the UPCI being one of the fastest growing churches through Rev T. French that was based upon his studies when he did research on oneness organizations while in seminary.
I'm not sure what you are asking as far as your second question, but as far as two UPCI churches in one town, if they work together in the same town, then I believe that they could have an effective outreach. The only problem I see with that is the fact that even two United Pentecostal Churches have problems with each other in some towns. I believe it would be better to have one Apostolic church in a town of 10,000 or less (UPC or not), than to have one UPC that split because of grievances and then have two Apostolic churches in that same town.
I gotcha.
As far as the UPC being one of the fastest growing organizations, I highly doubt that. I'm not accusing T. French of lying, I'm just curious as to how he defines "growth".
And, whether it's growing or not, I seriously doubt it's one of the fastest growing organizations. And, please don't be offended, I challenge anyone, even myself, to back up their assertions, so it's nothing personal.
And, as far as the churches splitting, you are referring to one church splitting and becoming two, rather than one church leaving the UPC, correct?
In either case, I'm not so sure it's always a bad thing, otherwise why would we plant churches? Sometimes you have to divide to multiply.
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As far as the UPC being one of the fastest growing organizations, I highly doubt that. I'm not accusing T. French of lying, I'm just curious as to how he defines "growth".
And, whether it's growing or not, I seriously doubt it's one of the fastest growing organizations. And, please don't be offended, I challenge anyone, even myself, to back up their assertions, so it's nothing personal.
And, as far as the churches splitting, you are referring to one church splitting and becoming two, rather than one church leaving the UPC, correct?
In either case, I'm not so sure it's always a bad thing, otherwise why would we plant churches? Sometimes you have to divide to multiply.
It's growing the fastest in 15 member churches. It still has one of the lowest on average membership's per capa church in the Pentecostal ranks.
Yawn.......the "need a healer" schtick is really getting old and is just as off base with your post here as in your first very eloquent one starting this thread.
The UPC has Jesus, has competent leadership in KH and a host of other dedicated men.
The conservatives have their leaders who are now moving in unity their direction and leaving the UPC to move in unity it's direction.
No amazing "to the rescue" healer needed for the UPC or the men leaving it!
Each will have more unity of purpose once the split is done. Now I think I am done with this thread if all you are going to do is post your lame cry for some mystical healing leader to arise from the masses and put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
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