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View Poll Results: Do You Believe in Women Preachers?
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:58 AM
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Mr EB. Wow! I had no idea Christians were supposed to be so mean. I do not have most women that call themselves preachers preach for me. Nor do I have most men. However, Sis Alvear, Sis George, Sis Jackson can come and preach for me anytime. ANYONE that has won as many souls as these ladies, can preach to me anytime. There are no clear cut scriptures that tell us they cannot. SO, instead of putting my hand against their work, I would like to join them because they are doing the work I am not willing to do. Also, have you won as many souls as Sis Alvear? Sis George? Sis Freeman? Sis Tolstad? If you have, God bless you I will not say anymore to you but if you have not, remember when the boys came to Jesus and told him about some people that were having success in the name of Jesus that was not part of the "12"? Jesus said to leave them alone if they are not against us they are for us. My spouse attempts to model her life after these ladies and I for one applaud. Keep on preaching Gentlemen and Ladies we must get the gospel to the world.

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Old 11-02-2007, 12:01 PM
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That woman goes through unbelievable trials in her life that I'm sure most, if not all of us, would quickly get out of.

This woman has been brutally robbed, guns in her face, threats against her life and her family, children kidnapped, cars stolen, witch doctors that put curses against her, woke up to strangers in her bedroom there to do her harm, gunshots outside her door, and countless other trials and tribulations that would blow our minds, and still she goes on spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ, and she's done this for decades now.

And the 'mighty and righteous' among us what to tell her that she's in disobedience to God for doing what she's doing? Are there any among us, especially the naysayers, who want to put themselves in her position, or are they not man enough???

I want others to see this post !

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Old 11-02-2007, 12:23 PM
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Mr EB. Wow! I had no idea Christians were supposed to be so mean. I do not have most women that call themselves preachers preach for me. Nor do I have most men. However, Sis Alvear, Sis George, Sis Jackson can come and preach for me anytime. ANYONE that has won as many souls as these ladies, can preach to me anytime. There are no clear cut scriptures that tell us they cannot. SO, instead of putting my hand against their work, I would like to join them because they are doing the work I am not willing to do. Also, have you won as many souls as Sis Alvear? Sis George? Sis Freeman? Sis Tolstad? If you have, God bless you I will not say anymore to you but if you have not, remember when the boys came to Jesus and told him about some people that were having success in the name of Jesus that was not part of the "12"? Jesus said to leave them alone if they are not against us they are for us. My spouse attempts to model her life after these ladies and I for one applaud. Keep on preaching Gentlemen and Ladies we must get the gospel to the world.

Sincerely,
One who is tired of seeing the body of Christ fight over frivolous reasons and ignorant rantings
Amen brother!
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:56 PM
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HO, be sure and check out the other thread too by STS- unbelievable!
Thad, it's easy to judge others from our own front porch, but let's see what we'd say when bullets are whizzing by our heads for the name of Jesus.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:41 PM
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Oh well my dear friends whatever side you are on my preaching days are about over and the Judge of the earth will decide my fate for sharing His story with those near and far.
I have given my whole life on the fact that the Go Ye command is for all christians and the power that was given to be this witness I recieved when I was 7 years old...
I do not feel I have sacrificed anything in return of all that I have witnessed on the field. My life has been exciting and believe me there is never a dull moment.
I have witnessed witchdoctors come to the Lord and turn out to be marvelous preachers...I witnessed a circus clown become an awesome preacher and overseer of many works, little street children we took into our homes and under our wings now are grown and pastor churches. Hardened drug users and prostitutes have become some of Brazil's finest christians.

Whether you believed God called me or not is not really that important and I do not mean that as a slur I only mean I am certain He called and never one time have I ever wanted to take a man's place or be a man. I am happy the Lord made me a woman. being a woman has saved my life on various occasions.
I am sure being a woman played a great part of a boundful harvest of souls in the backlands of Brazil.
I have a wonderful husband that is a wonerful preacher and an awesome man of God and he has always encouraged me to glean in God's fields. I have a wonderful pastor and he has always encouraged me to be what God called me to be at a young tender age of eight.

I have never tryed to be a man, never asked to be ordained...anointed by Him is fine for me.
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:55 PM
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They that be for you are more than be against you Sister Alvear. Your great spirit shines brilliantly through and needs no defense. Thanks for your Godly example.

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Old 11-02-2007, 02:04 PM
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Sis. Alvear,

You exemplify a godly life, and I have no doubt that God has called you to preach. I'm sure you don't, but don't let the criticisms of the few affect your ability to reach the many.

As Thomas Edison said, "Great spirits have always suffered violent opposition from small minds". (Paraphrased)
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:43 PM
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They that be for you are more than be against you Sister Alvear. Your great spirit shines brilliantly through and needs no defense. Thanks for your Godly example.

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Old 11-02-2007, 02:50 PM
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I actually don't believe in preachers at all. But if I was forced to choose, I would choose a woman over a man hands down.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:57 PM
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The qualifications of an elder (one in the five-fold ministry) can only be defined through the Bible’s narrative. Both 1 Timothy 3:2-7 and Titus 1:6-9 list the criteria for apostolic conformity to this call (See 1 Timothy 3:2-7; Titus 1:6-9).

In both these writings we find Paul specifying that an elder must be the “husband of one wife.” These same writings also contain Paul’s guidelines for the behavior of an elder’s wife and children. Therefore, compliance with these would require one to be a male, which means the calling of an elder could only be fulfilled by men, and never by women. But beyond this clear textual evidence is the fact that nowhere in the Bible do we find women operating in the role of a New Covenant Church Elder. This fact alone should settle this apostolic principle.

I realize that the Bible says that there are neither male nor female in Christ (Galatians 3:28). But when one reads Galatians 3 in context, they find that Paul is speaking about all people - Jew and Greek, bond and free, male and female – who put on Christ, have equal access to God’s promise. This same theme is mentioned in many of Paul’s epistles (See Galatians 5:6; Romans 1:16, 2:9-10, 3:29-30, 4:11-12, 9:24, 10:12-15; 1Corinthians 7:19; 12:13; Ephesians 3:5-10; Colossians 3:11).

To make this lone passage in Galatians 3 the standard for biblical eldership, one would have to take its wording out of context and ignore numerous passages, which define a man and woman’s role in ministry differently than does Galatians 3:28. Such measures always lead to error and false doctrine.

A woman’s ‘ministry’ is to compliment her husband’s. A man’s ministry may not be the one shining forth in a relationship, but that does not mean the Lord does not desire such a situation to change. This, again, is why both the man and the woman need training from the elders.

Does God use women in the Church? Of course He does. But just as there is a proper headship in the home (See Ephesians 5:23-24; 1 Corinthians 11:3), there is also a proper headship in the Church (see Hebrews 13:17; 1 Thessalonians 5:12-13; 1 Timothy 5:17).

The Bible describes matured women of approved character and piety, ministering to other women (See Titus 2:3-5).

A woman’s service is regarded as very important to the Kingdom of God. Paul mentions such labor in his epistle to the church at Philippi. “And I entreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow laborers, whose names are in the book of life” (Philippians 4:3). Other biblical examples where women served in the Kingdom of God include:
• The Shunamite women ministered to Elisha. (2 Kings 4)
• Martha served the Lord and His Disciples. (Luke 10:38-42; John 12:2, 26)
• Peter’s wife’s mother was healed and then ministered to Jesus. (Matthew 8:14-15; Mark 1:31)
• Certain women ministered to Jesus, including: Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee’s children. (Matthew 27:55-56)
• Joanna, the wife of Herod’s stewards, and Susanna and many others also ministered to Jesus. (Luke 8:1-3)
• Dorcas ministered to the needs of the poor. (Acts 9:36-40)
• Paul asked the Church at Rome to help Phebe in whatever she was doing. She was a servant at the Church at Cenchrea. (Romans 16:1-2)

These examples describe women serving in the Church, but nowhere do we find an example of a woman functioning in the five-fold ministry.
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