SHOCKER!! PAW Min. TONEX embraces Carlton Pearson's Doctrine on TV show!!!!!

[bishoph]

Tonex is an Apostolic train wreck! He has lived a very public questionable lifestyle and his father would never have endorsed such nonsense.

In some ways however this does not surprise me too much because there are some on this forum that seem to embrace the same ideology.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by bishoph

Tonex is an Apostolic train wreck! He has lived a very public questionable lifestyle and his father would never have endorsed such nonsense.

In some ways however this does not surprise me too much because there are some on this forum that seem to embrace the same ideology.

embraces the inclusion doctrine ?? on AFF ???

who for instance ??

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Thad

embraces the inclusion doctrine ?? on AFF ???

who for instance ??

Crak does

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Crak does

Those that continue in blatant sin have not yet entered into the LIFE of reconcilation. The are perishing or wasting their present lives they will be pruned, purged and purified if the die in the current state.

Big difference Prax. Can't consider it Inclusion just yet.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Those that continue in blatant sin have not yet entered into the LIFE of reconcilation. The are perishing or wasting their present lives they will be pruned, purged and purified if the die in the current state.

Big difference Prax. Can't consider it Inclusion just yet.

Not really...CP and you both believe EVERYONE eventually is saved

A person who spends every day getting drunk, will ruin their health, marriage, family and career; they will make their lives a living Hell. But that still falls far short of the chronic alcoholic being condemned by a just God to literally burn in Hell forever and ever.

For others it may very well be that the punishment merited by their sins is greater than what they receive in this life. For those people perhaps there will be some kind of punishment after death, but we believe that it will be remedial and corrective rather than just punishment for punishment's sake. Exactly what that will be and how long it will last we don't know. Will Hell for some people last 10 minutes or 10 million years... we don't know. But this we do know; Hell will not last for eternity; it will not be endless... Don't sin. Be reunited with God now, rather than after you have put yourself (and those you love) through Hell.

http://www.inclusion.ws/faq1.htm

[bishoph]

The sad reality is that Tonex is a pastor. He assumed the pastorate of his fathers (the late District Elder Anthony C. Williams) church. (Truth Apostolic Community Church) This is a church that has had an "accepting" attitude for some time, that was only somewhat checked by D/E Williams, when he passed, under Tonex's leadership there is no restraint. IMO

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by bishoph

The sad reality is that Tonex is a pastor. He assumed the pastorate of his fathers (the late District Elder Anthony C. Williams) church. (Truth Apostolic Community Church) This is a church that has had an "accepting" attitude for some time, that was only somewhat checked by D/E Williams, when he passed, under Tonex's leadership there is no restraint. IMO

Very true!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by bishoph

The sad reality is that Tonex is a pastor. He assumed the pastorate of his fathers (the late District Elder Anthony C. Williams) church. (Truth Apostolic Community Church) This is a church that has had an "accepting" attitude for some time, that was only somewhat checked by D/E Williams, when he passed, under Tonex's leadership there is no restraint. IMO

Bishop There's a lot of strrrrrrrrange things going up in there.
Tonex and his mom have ran a lot of the members away with all the Nutty practices they have brought into the church. The PAW Bishop has tried to intervene to no avail.

after he put out that last video, i don't see how anyone could stay in that church

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Not really...CP and you both believe EVERYONE eventually is saved


http://www.inclusion.ws/faq1.htm

Quote:
A person who spends every day getting drunk, will ruin their health, marriage, family and career; they will make their lives a living Hell. But that still falls far short of the chronic alcoholic being condemned by a just God to literally burn in Hell forever and ever.

For others it may very well be that the punishment merited by their sins is greater than what they receive in this life. For those people perhaps there will be some kind of punishment after death, but we believe that it will be remedial and corrective rather than just punishment for punishment's sake. Exactly what that will be and how long it will last we don't know. Will Hell for some people last 10 minutes or 10 million years... we don't know. But this we do know; Hell will not last for eternity; it will not be endless... Don't sin. Be reunited with God now, rather than after you have put yourself (and those you love) through Hell. http://www.inclusion.ws/faq1.htm

There are certainly some areas of agreement, and with this quote I certainly do agree.

However, CP appears to embrace those that are living in blatant sin in the fellowship of believers, I believe the scriptures teach us to separate from those that walk in open rebellion against the principles of holiness. Those that are seeking deliverance and freedom from ungodly lifestyles are a different matter.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by crakjak

Those that continue in blatant sin have not yet entered into the LIFE of reconcilation. The are perishing or wasting their present lives they will be pruned, purged and purified if the die in the current state.

Big difference Prax. Can't consider it Inclusion just yet.

So, what happens while they are being pruned, purged, purified ?
what's the process ??? and what happens when that ends ?