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Old 11-22-2007, 09:14 AM
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See, what some of you are missing, (but was still pointed out) is that they are NOT violating anything if it was the organization that changed, and not the pastors convictions.

Also, If they do withdraw is there anything wrong with other pastors who feel the same way, to talk amongst themselves and discuss "where to go from here"? If you have say, 10 pastors who have decided to simply withdraw, (as agreed to by signing) and then without asking others to withdraw, without telling their churches they can no longer associate with the UPC, but they simply withdraw their membership with the org and then form an organization of their own, How is that a violation?

You are assuming (at least) two things here.

1 - That it was the pastor who changed his convictions.
(when in reality, they remained the same, it was the org that changed)

2 - That by withdrawing, they are actively trying to pull others out and alienate their churches from the fellowship of the org.
(when in reality, they are simply withdrawing, and then forming an org amongst themselves.)

Now sure, there are exceptions to most every rule, so I'm sure there will be some who actively try to influence others. But just because someone withdraws, and has a meeting amongst other men who are also withdrawing does not in any way mean they are violating their agreement. Especially considering the fact that it was the ORG that changed, not the pastor!
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