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Old 11-18-2007, 07:31 PM
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So would you agree that ability is not a pre-requisite to anointing?
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Yes. God is able to use anyone who believes Him. Ability can be a hinderance if the preacher relies on his own ability and doesn't seek God.
Check out who God used in the Old Testament.
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Old 11-19-2007, 11:41 PM
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What can be said about an anointing --

Regarding what an anointing is, you might want to see this thread:
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...read.php?t=366
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Old 11-22-2007, 11:45 AM
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Is the presence of the anointing in a persons life a stamp of approval on their doctrine?
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Is the presence of the anointing in a persons life a stamp of approval on their doctrine?

Absolutely not, as you well know.

Anointing is something God gives, an empowerment that enables us to do something in the Kingdom. It is a spiritual thing, but affects us emotionally.

Elijah was instructed by God to anoint three men:

Jehu, Hazael, and Elisha.

All three were anointed, but two of them were very likely lost.

The anointing is functionary, an empowerment enabling us to advance God's purpose.

God will anoint even the unsaved it is suits His purpose.

He anointed Nebuchadnezzar, but didn't approve his doctrine or lifestyle.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:30 PM
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Is the presence of the anointing in a persons life a stamp of approval on their doctrine?
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Absolutely not, as you well know.

Anointing is something God gives, an empowerment that enables us to do something in the Kingdom. It is a spiritual thing, but affects us emotionally.

Elijah was instructed by God to anoint three men:

Jehu, Hazael, and Elisha.

All three were anointed, but two of them were very likely lost.

The anointing is functionary, an empowerment enabling us to advance God's purpose.

God will anoint even the unsaved it is suits His purpose.

He anointed Nebuchadnezzar, but didn't approve his doctrine or lifestyle.
Great discussion.
Great questions.
Great answer.

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Old 11-22-2007, 12:32 PM
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Absolutely not, as you well know.

Anointing is something God gives, an empowerment that enables us to do something in the Kingdom. It is a spiritual thing, but affects us emotionally.

Elijah was instructed by God to anoint three men:

Jehu, Hazael, and Elisha.

All three were anointed, but two of them were very likely lost.

The anointing is functionary, an empowerment enabling us to advance God's purpose.

God will anoint even the unsaved it is suits His purpose.

He anointed Nebuchadnezzar, but didn't approve his doctrine or lifestyle.
Interesting...
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:36 PM
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Absolutely not, as you well know.

Anointing is something God gives, an empowerment that enables us to do something in the Kingdom. It is a spiritual thing, but affects us emotionally.

Elijah was instructed by God to anoint three men:

Jehu, Hazael, and Elisha.

All three were anointed, but two of them were very likely lost.

The anointing is functionary, an empowerment enabling us to advance God's purpose.

God will anoint even the unsaved it is suits His purpose.

He anointed Nebuchadnezzar, but didn't approve his doctrine or lifestyle.
And this is exactly where many people get tripped up, especially emotionally driven people. They see someone highly anointed and cannot seperate it from anything else including biblical absolutes.

My Question is, can a person have all truth but no anointing, no spirit, no Fruit of the spirit, no genuine love for souls, just biblical truth and obedience to rules and laws and still be righteous ?. I'm talking about the other extreme end of the spectrum.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:51 PM
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And this is exactly where many people get tripped up, especially emotionally driven people. They see someone highly anointed and cannot seperate it from anything else including biblical absolutes.

My Question is, can a person have all truth but no anointing, no spirit, no Fruit of the spirit, no genuine love for souls, just biblical truth and obedience to rules and laws and still be righteous ?. I'm talking about the other extreme end of the spectrum.
I do believe this 110%. Many people aren't spiritually balanced enough to understand that, either.

Many 'gifted' people (musicians, singers, theatrics, artist types - among others) are emotionally driven and make a connection with the 'feeling' without considering biblical absolutes.

NOTE: Thad just posted real substance today. His critics must be confused right now.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:55 PM
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I do believe this 110%. Many people aren't spiritually balanced enough to understand that, either.

Many 'gifted' people (musicians, singers, theatrics, artist types - among others) are emotionally driven and make a connection with the 'feeling' without considering biblical absolutes.

NOTE: Thad just posted real substance today. His critics must be confused right now.
My feelings are hurt

Hey I know the Thadeous gradious that was born in sin and shapen in iniquity most emotional types wont admit it but neither will the ones that are all word no feeling, no spirit, no heart.
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My feelings are hurt

Hey I know the Thadeous gradious that was born in sin and shapen in iniquity most emotional types wont admit it but neither will the ones that are all word no feeling, no spirit, no heart.
That, too, is the truth.
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