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Old 03-07-2007, 10:15 AM
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Ministers would not come with us to Vidor for a sectional meeting as they were black.I was told that Vidor used to do court business along time ago under a tree at a table outdoors.The people were sweating for more than one reason.
Recent efforts to integrate my neighbors to the west have not been, shall we say, successful. It is still a sizeable town with no black residents.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:28 AM
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I had heard that about that church...I experienced it at another church down south but I had sooo many positive experiences down south too from "real" brothers and sisters in Christ!
it would be unfair to say the issues were the "church" - there was an effort at one time to start a minority daughter work....the leadership as a whole didnt have any issue with minorties. Granted they wouldnt have been comfortable worshipping in the same church at the same time, but that wasnt a reflection on the "Church" as a whole....

That church just happened to have a few stupid people on the roll....BUT I will say this, the racial issues, ran both ways. Segregation of congregations was generally a mutually agreeded practice.


it wasnt the church as a whole, nor is the whole state of Mississippi racist. Stupidity was just more prevalent in earlier times...and there was a separation of the races by choice, from both sides, without any great animosity. I dont think it was done out of hatred - it was IGNORANCE
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:36 AM
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it would be unfair to say the issues were the "church" - there was an effort at one time to start a minority daughter work....the leadership as a whole didnt have any issue with minorties. Granted they wouldnt have been comfortable worshipping in the same church at the same time, but that wasnt a reflection on the "Church" as a whole....

That church just happened to have a few stupid people on the roll....BUT I will say this, the racial issues, ran both ways. Segregation of congregations was generally a mutually agreeded practice.


it wasnt the church as a whole, nor is the whole state of Mississippi racist. Stupidity was just more prevalent in earlier times...and there was a separation of the races by choice, from both sides, without any great animosity. I dont think it was done out of hatred - it was IGNORANCE
I have to agree with this.....

When I lived down there, at work there was a sweet black man that worked in our bldg. If you started to walk up the stairs the same time he was coming down them, he would back up the stairs until you walked up, then he would go down. It would DRIVE me NUTS! I told him to stop it and walk on the steps at the same time as me, but he wouldn't do it.

It was the way he was raised and he never changed. It was very, very uncomfortable.
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I think that the reaction to this thread has been more positive than is being realized.

Thad is upset because people are reacting negatively to his thread and is feeling that it is a negative towards him when... it seems to me... when this thread was started in which the issue appears to be the fact that these gentlemen are black posters reacted negatively.. not at Thad... but at the thought that this is an issue.

The spiral this thread took was taken because so many people wonder why this is an issue.

To me the "negativity" of this thread is a sign of a postive change in mindset.
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I think that the reaction to this thread has been more positive than is being realized.

Thad is upset because people are reacting negatively to his thread and is feeling that it is a negative towards him when... it seems to me... when this thread was started in which the issue appears to be the fact that these gentlemen are black posters reacted negatively.. not at Thad... but at the thought that this is an issue.

The spiral this thread took was taken because so many people wonder why this is an issue.

To me the "negativity" of this thread is a sign of a postive change in mindset.
True - just don't come to Memphis though. Not much has changed and don't see it changing anytime soon.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:44 AM
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I think that the reaction to this thread has been more positive than is being realized.

Thad is upset because people are reacting negatively to his thread and is feeling that it is a negative towards him when... it seems to me... when this thread was started in which the issue appears to be the fact that these gentlemen are black posters reacted negatively.. not at Thad... but at the thought that this is an issue.

The spiral this thread took was taken because so many people wonder why this is an issue.

To me the "negativity" of this thread is a sign of a postive change in mindset.
many people think Thad brought it up b/c they are supposedly dating black men...when in reality, that isnt the point of his post at all...it was mostly b/c of where they came from and how unacceptable that would have been in an earlier time...and not just by the white folks!!!

And yes, some people now would find it all interesting and ironic...and not in a bad way. the LW family was always "above" the southern mindset when they were there - they werent from there, they hadnt been indoctrinated to the segregation of the races. It wasnt and isnt a church or spiritual issue...

and times have changed...thankfully.

He wasnt bringing this up to say they are *gasp* dating or married to black men...
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:13 AM
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Recent efforts to integrate my neighbors to the west have not been, shall we say, successful. It is still a sizeable town with no black residents.
This is really sad.

........and how many UPC churches are in this area??
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many people think Thad brought it up b/c they are supposedly dating black men...when in reality, that isnt the point of his post at all...it was mostly b/c of where they came from and how unacceptable that would have been in an earlier time...and not just by the white folks!!!

And yes, some people now would find it all interesting and ironic...and not in a bad way. the LW family was always "above" the southern mindset when they were there - they werent from there, they hadnt been indoctrinated to the segregation of the races. It wasnt and isnt a church or spiritual issue...

and times have changed...thankfully.

He wasnt bringing this up to say they are *gasp* dating or married to black men...
I would imagine that the majority of us would not know how these people from earlier times would feel. That would also tend to make a thread open for misinterpretatin it would seem.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:39 AM
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I would imagine that the majority of us would not know how these people from earlier times would feel. That would also tend to make a thread open for misinterpretatin it would seem.
again, I think decisions made in earlier times, werent always done out of hatred..it was IGNORANCE usually predicated by FEAR....which were generally the predecessors to hatred yk?
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:40 PM
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This is really sad.

........and how many UPC churches are in this area??
I am from Vidor and the activity spoke of has gone on in over 50 years. It is a very good place to live.


There ae 3 UPC churches, 2 Ind. and 1 ALJC. There is a very large % of Pentecostals.
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