Your Turn: "Mistakes Backsliders Make"

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Esther

True, but that goes both ways. Those that believe it is not true have been conditioned to believe that as well.

Then I am probably safe, because I trust nothing and no one, LOL

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Then I am probably safe, because I trust nothing and no one, LOL

It is very safe to Trust in God

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

Is this a mournful dirge-type song? (isn't that all you guys sing there?)

It's a very beautiful worship type song!

[seguidordejesus]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

It's a very beautiful worship type song!

in other words, yes

(just messing witcha!)

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by seguidordejesus

in other words, yes

(just messing witcha!)

I must admit, my mother was in critical care over the weekend and she wasn't doing good, and I thought about every one of us decendants (kids, grandkids) singing this song together at her funeral if she were to die!

The good news is that she is now doing much better and I believe she's going to be alright!

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Esther

It is very safe to Trust in God

Well then I am back to not being safe

I don't think I will be able to learn to trust in god, until I can learn to separate who God really is, from what I was taught that he is.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Michlow

Well then I am back to not being safe

I don't think I will be able to learn to trust in god, until I can learn to separate who God really is, from what I was taught that he is.

Not sure what your problem is here. I will say I feel very sorry for you if you don't have a relationship with God. I say that sincerely.

God is love.

God is a Spirit.

Begin with the simple things.

Read His Word for yourself.

And becareful you haven't begun to believe a lie.

[Michlow]

Originally Posted by Esther

Not sure what your problem is here.

I'm not sure that I HAVE a problem!

Originally Posted by Esther

I will say I feel very sorry for you if you don't have a relationship with God. I say that sincerely.

I do have a relationship with God. Actually I have to say that anyone who believes that he exists has SOME kind of relationship with him.

Originally Posted by Esther

God is love.

Then why are those who are supposedly closest to him so filled with hate?

Originally Posted by Esther

God is a Spirit.

Begin with the simple things.

Actually, I believe that I have...see my signature.

Originally Posted by Esther

Read His Word for yourself.

The only Word that I beleive in is Jesus. I view the bible as simply recorded accounts of man's viewpoint of their interactions with God.

Originally Posted by Esther

And be careful you haven't begun to believe a lie.

God knows my heart. He knows what I am sincere. If he can't (or won't ) protect me then he is either weak or heartless, and not worthy of being worshipped.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I'm not sure that I HAVE a problem!



I do have a relationship with God. Actually I have to say that anyone who believes that he exists has SOME kind of relationship with him.



Then why are those who are supposedly closest to him so filled with hate?



Actually, I believe that I have...see my signature.



The only Word that I beleive in is Jesus. I view the bible as simply recorded accounts of man's viewpoint of their interactions with God.



God knows my heart. He knows what I am sincere. If he can't (or won't ) protect me then he is either weak or heartless, and not worthy of being worshipped.

Mich I would love to speak with you sometime on this. I have to leave where I am now.

I understand your desire to not be deceived and I applaud you for that. Just don't let your pendulum swing from one extreme to the other.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Michlow

I'm not sure that I HAVE a problem!

Do you think that it is possible that you might have a problem?
I know I have problems

I do have a relationship with God. Actually I have to say that anyone who believes that he exists has SOME kind of relationship with him.

And thats the place to start, and desire to develope that relationship is important.

Then why are those who are supposedly closest to him so filled with hate?

Key word.... "supposedly"
Also, some who are trying to be close to him, are still yet imperfect humans, and as humans we often do stupid things. That has nothing to do with Gods perfection though. God is good, even if his followers are not always.

Actually, I believe that I have...see my signature.

Thats good, just trust God, but don't stop there, learn more from him, about him, get to know him more.

The only Word that I beleive in is Jesus. I view the bible as simply recorded accounts of man's viewpoint of their interactions with God.

So go with what you trust, follow what Jesus says, nothing wrong there, in fact, thats great!

God knows my heart. He knows what I am sincere. If he can't (or won't ) protect me then he is either weak or heartless, and not worthy of being worshipped.

I don't think you believe he is weak or heartless, I think you may be battleing thoughts like that, but haven't yet been convinced. How about listing the reasons why you think he is not weak, and heartless. (in private not neccesarily on a public forum)
It is very important not to believe a lie, so while distrusting tradiditions, be carefull not to trust all the negative thoughts that come too.

So seek God, and his truths, ask him to reveal the truth to you, and to make you what he wants you to be. Forget everythign else for now, just go after God with all you are. Thats OK right?