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Old 11-30-2007, 06:33 PM
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...and from scrooge himself?
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:58 PM
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maybe thats why they dont go anymore
You may want to consider they "were" the conference.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:59 PM
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Nobody wants to be a Christian? I think this is bit of a stretch. I know many apostolics who are wonderful Christians. It's possible to be both.

The very fact you would differentiate the two is troubling.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:15 PM
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Watched the show - the production was pretty good on it. The message was also good.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:25 PM
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The very fact you would differentiate the two is troubling.
You think? I thought that was what you were doing? To say that nobody who is apostolic wants to be a Christian is fairly hyperbolic (is that a word? lol) imo.

The two terms are definitely not necessarily synonymous. We know that there are Christians who aren't apostolic and there are apostolics who may not be Christians -- certainly not always act like Christians. But to say that everyone wants to be apostolic but not Christian isn't sensible or factual either. I'm saying you can be both.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:27 PM
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People do change sometimes WD. I remember hearing preachers preach against many things that later in life they changed on. they had to take the heat for it of course. I know preachers who preached against cadillacs and 20 years later they had one sitting in the church parking lot.
Don't hold it against anyone. there might be something you change your mind on one day too.

One other thing, some who voted in favor of the TV resolution use to preach against if over their pulpits. thing about that
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:18 PM
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You think? I thought that was what you were doing? To say that nobody who is apostolic wants to be a Christian is fairly hyperbolic (is that a word? lol) imo.

The two terms are definitely not necessarily synonymous. We know that there are Christians who aren't apostolic and there are apostolics who may not be Christians -- certainly not always act like Christians. But to say that everyone wants to be apostolic but not Christian isn't sensible or factual either. I'm saying you can be both.
I'm saying there is no difference. If you are a Christian, regardless of denominational ties; ie. baptist, methodist, etc., if you consider yourself a Christian, you should be Apostolic. Apostolic does not mean Acts 2:38: the early Apostles built on Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

The term in and of itself is misleading. To say you are Apostolic just because you believe God requires three steps to salvation is a fallacy.

The disciples merely preached Jesus. That's all. They had no agenda, no personal ambitions, they gave their lives for Jesus and His gospel.

I know many who consider themselves Apostolic, (because of their standards) but completely ignore Christian ethics. They gossip, lie, cheat, backbite, hate their brothers, consider everybody else lost, consumed by jealousy, bitterness, etc.

Either you are a Christian or you are not saved.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:29 PM
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I'm saying there is no difference. If you are a Christian, regardless of denominational ties; ie. baptist, methodist, etc., if you consider yourself a Christian, you should be Apostolic. Apostolic does not mean Acts 2:38: the early Apostles built on Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

The term in and of itself is misleading. To say you are Apostolic just because you believe God requires three steps to salvation is a fallacy.

The disciples merely preached Jesus. That's all. They had no agenda, no personal ambitions, they gave their lives for Jesus and His gospel.

I know many who consider themselves Apostolic, (because of their standards) but completely ignore Christian ethics. They gossip, lie, cheat, backbite, hate their brothers, consider everybody else lost, consumed by jealousy, bitterness, etc.

Either you are a Christian or you are not saved.
Okay. Thanks for taking time to write this post and for the explanation. It was your statement that everyone wants to be apostolic but not be a Christian that I had/have a problem with.

I think I understand better now what you meant, and I don't think I can disagree with what you're saying.

God bless!
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:31 PM
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Okay. Thanks for taking time to write this post and for the explanation. I understand better now and I don't think I can disagree with what you're saying.

God bless!
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Firstly it is a blessing to see the great work of the Lord. True the format is was would be seen on a television program; there is no difference. I think saints need to stop trying to split hairs. New committee, new organization...Godquest; it's all fine and well. Running from an issue doesn't resolve it. While running from one issue you only run into others. It is a shame to see such a mighty move of God that was documented in the video, and yet here in the states men of God are at odds with each other. I would think after that experience and those that view it would come to the realization that television/video issues are trivial. There is more at stake than a person viewing television/videos and that is the souls of man.
My friend you just said it all God bless you
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