*T.L Craft: A further look into His Departure*

[Sacerdotal]

Does anybody know for sure if Bro. Craft turned in his license? That would surprise me much more than anybody else I've seen rumors of on here.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Minister_WD

I think that it's a fair assessment to say, out of all the Men leaving over resolution 4,TLC's Departure is the most surprising to myself and most of the Brethren(at least the ones I've have spoken with).While I certainly respect Elder Craft's right to do as he wishes,quite honestly,I am hurt and dismayed over this one more than any of the major players that are spearheading the New Organization in Tulsa.

Since it was confirmed by Bro Epley and already discussed on a previous Thread,for the sake of discusion,I am going a step further to disclose a few other details of interest. My first concern is the conflict that this whole ordeal appears to be causing in families,more than one I might add. Chris Craft was offered the youth president, but flatly refused and said he would not be going to Tulsa.
Secondly,is it really Christ-like to recruit ministers for this new organization and try to convince them to leave the UPC? Brethren, is it right to entice men of influence by offering positions,perhaps for the sake of gaining others? TLC has been offered the Overseer position for 2009 if he would sign on as 7th name. They are calling people and offering positions like crazy.

Is there any substantial evedence of this? (the bolded parts)

Is it all rumors and gossip?

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Minister_WD

I think that it's a fair assessment to say, out of all the Men leaving over resolution 4,TLC's Departure is the most surprising to myself and most of the Brethren(at least the ones I've have spoken with).While I certainly respect Elder Craft's right to do as he wishes,quite honestly,I am hurt and dismayed over this one more than any of the major players that are spearheading the New Organization in Tulsa.

Since it was confirmed by Bro Epley and already discussed on a previous Thread,for the sake of discusion,I am going a step further to disclose a few other details of interest. My first concern is the conflict that this whole ordeal appears to be causing in families,more than one I might add. Chris Craft was offered the youth president, but flatly refused and said he would not be going to Tulsa.
Secondly,is it really Christ-like to recruit ministers for this new organization and try to convince them to leave the UPC? Brethren, is it right to entice men of influence by offering positions,perhaps for the sake of gaining others? TLC has been offered the Overseer position for 2009 if he would sign on as 7th name. They are calling people and offering positions like crazy.

They haven't called me and offered me a position. Do they need my number?

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

They haven't called me and offered me a position. Do they need my number?

And what position would you volonteer for?

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by meBNme

And what position would you volonteer for?

Honorable, Right Reverend, Bishop of video ministries.


I have no interest in that group. Absalom's altar hold no interest to me. It is never the will of God to over throw or stand against the ones God put in power.

[PastorD]

YIKES! There was a day that folks keep the gloves on and never told some of the real reasons and info, but it is looking like the gloves are coming off in this deal. If people aren't doing this for the right reason and it is only about position and power it is going to be told.

[Thad]

A pastor's son just posted today that his Father was asked to be over the bible Quizzing???..He posted it on another thread - if forget which one.
Anyhow, he said his father turned the offer down

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by josh

Misinformation continues to abound.

Nobody is offering positions...the format hasn't even been firmly decided. Bro Craft did the contacting, nobody solicited him at all.

You guys are a riot.

Oh, by the way CC will follow TLC. He's already committed.

bump....i don't think Josh believes it.

[Sacerdotal]

So nobody knows for sure that Bro. Craft left the UPC? I guess if it makes a good thread proof doesn't matter.

[meBNme]

Oh, and don't forget, If you question the validity of the unverified claim, you are labeled a "denier" or flat earth'er etc etc.