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Old 12-01-2007, 01:21 PM
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Yes I do, but there was more to the story than many know. I just find it interesting that he is leaving over TV (if this is true) . Ad.on TV isn't a heaven or hell issue. There were somethings put under the rug and not addressed back then, that should of been handled. JMO
I agree that someone should not leave over this issue. As far as anything with Brother Craft back then, I have no idea as to what went on. Brother Craft has always been a christian towards me.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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I agree that someone should not leave over this issue. As far as anything with Brother Craft back then, I have no idea as to what went on. Brother Craft has always been a christian towards me.
I think you should call him and tell him what is being said about him on AFF.

I mean, just to verify everything.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:24 PM
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Well, I do not know Brother Craft only hearsay...but I would be very careful with my words.
As far as organizations they are formed often and dissapear often...Nothing the UPCI or Independents have any bearing on what is in my heart and how I live...Sometimes people don't know how to live without a clique...
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:39 PM
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Oh to be a fly on the wall in Jackson, .... circa early 90's.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Now, Dan we don't want to be flies we want to be a blessing...
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Now, Dan we don't want to be flies we want to be a blessing...
Oh maybe you're right, Mother Alvear .... thanks for reminding me of my carnality.

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Old 12-01-2007, 02:01 PM
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I thought it made you a basher of the one who stated the claim.
AHH yess, thanks for reminding me!.


But doesn't that now make you a basher basher?

....and now I am a ....... oh my goodness, my brain is frying.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:03 PM
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AHH yess, thanks for reminding me!.


But doesn't that now make you a basher basher?

....and now I am a ....... an oxymoron waiting to happen.
You should really be kinder to yourself.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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The LEADERS of this pack are the very ones who are doing these things. The sad thing is they are perpetuating this stuff to younger skulls full of mush ministers who admire them for some reason...
And again, the million dollar question.....

Do you have true confirmation of this?

Mind you, I am not saying "none of it is true" But I am saying all I have seen here is speculation gossip and rumors about it, and those men.

How did you form your opinions? based on the gossip here, or do you have something more substantial? If so, bring it out, because fact is far better than the trash thats been spewing on these forums. And yes, if it is just talk it is trash unless it is backed up with something to confirm it.
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Old 12-01-2007, 02:09 PM
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So I ask......if the organization takes a turn in a direction you don't agree with, will you "overthrow, or withstand" the leaders by leaving?

Nothing personal Bro. I just think we need to be careful what bandwagon we jump on!
If you are part of a local assembly and it starts heading in a direction you think is wrong, what do you do?
--You can pray about it and see if God changes the church direction or changes your attitude.
--You can try to get enough people together to vote out the pastor and board and put in people who would do things the way you think they should.
--You can leave that church and find one which is a better "fit" for you.
Or
--you could start your own church and run it the way you think it should be run.
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