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12-02-2007, 07:16 PM
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Sister Alvear
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No, I meant in the states...
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12-02-2007, 07:18 PM
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Sister Alvear
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In Brazil they are all intermarried...we have no pure white or black race...just all Brazilians...Thank the Lord it never crosses my mind what color someone is...
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12-02-2007, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
No, I meant in the states...
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Yet .... surely there is prejudice even in Brazil ... sister ...
Where my mother is from, the Dominican Republic, a predominantly black island, there are still distinctions made socially and politically between whites, light-skinned blacks, and darker skinned blacks. In neighboring Haiti, light-skinned blacks have subjugated those of darker complexion.
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12-02-2007, 07:21 PM
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No, I meant in the states...
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thank you for clarifying that. It's still sad. Because it shouldn't be happening anywhere!
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12-02-2007, 07:22 PM
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The UPC has had an element of racism in its history. Last week I was sharing the PCI manual that Raven had sent me with an elderly UPC minister and he told me how that in the '40's and early '50's the "colored" ministers were always listed in the back of the directory. Sad.
I have family of "mixed race" and my heart is always troubled when I see them suffer either because they are not "white enough" or because they are not "black enough." As a young minister I idealistically accepted an invitation to speak at an all black church in another org and was pretty much told not to come back because I was a "white boy."
PraiseHymn, as you get around you will get hurt. You probably have already seen that. The UPC today is very progressive as far as "race" goes and I've even heard where "minority" ministers were being recruited for leadership in places where they were under represented before. Of course, not everyone gets with the Gospel message and you will inevitably find some rancorous sourpuss spouting Jim Crow. We all bump into these types wherever we go in society, you can't let it get you down.
As far as TV and facial hair- well, black men have traditionally been given a pass on facial hair in Apostolic ranks. I consider that unfair  , but that's the way it is. And TV is only a big deal if you make it to be. Most folks couldn't care less where you come down on that issue.
Some really good churches in Atlanta have already been mentioned. Pastor D. Johns is a great man and you won't find a better pastor no matter what you look like. He's a Christian. I wish you all the best on your move and welcome to AFF.
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12-02-2007, 07:22 PM
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Everyone needs to just worship with their OWN kind, keep it simple.  |
I'm waiting to see if this is a joke........if it was supposed to be, it is in VERY poor taste.
If it's for real, I'm anxious to have a serious discussion with Truthseeker.
I find it very ironic that our good friend, in his search for "truth" has stopped celebrating Christmas because it has it's origin in pagan traditions, but would turn around and violate scripture by making a comment such as this. The Bible says, "If any man hath respect to persons, he doth commit sin".
Just another example of twisted theology.
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12-02-2007, 07:23 PM
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Sister Alvear
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they say Brazil is the least prejudice country in the world...
I am sure there is some but not a lot...I have had pastors in the states call me and tell me NOT to bring my black children...
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12-02-2007, 07:26 PM
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We are their OWN kind we are all humans with red blood and members of the Lord's church.
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12-02-2007, 07:26 PM
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Sister Alvear
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My son Michael has been deeply hurt by some pastors...so sad he is such a precious son.
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12-02-2007, 07:28 PM
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My son Michael has been deeply hurt by some pastors...so sad he is such a precious son.
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The U.S. as a whole is still struggling w/ this issue ... and unfortunately in the American church also, sister.
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