Foot washing

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Again Elder....it was an object lesson, an example of humility. The example showed service to others.

The fact that Jesus did this service and he was Lord showed them in no uncertain terms that he expected them to be in service to others and not to think that they would be the ones being served.

It was a great example, but that is what it was ..an EXAmPLE.

Now Good night and God bless...I'm gonna go wash my feet and go to bed !!

Good idea. Good night.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Theophil

I agree.

If y'all forgive me I like y'all but I rather just DO what Jesus DID and said to DO. I'm just a simple Kentuckian, but wise enough when I hear His saying to DO them.

[Theophil]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

If y'all forgive me I like y'all but I rather just DO what Jesus DID and said to DO. I'm just a simple Kentuckian, but wise enough when I hear His saying to DO them.

I like you too, Elder. Good night and God bless you.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

It does not say now many times and someone may die and get a chance to wash feet however if they have the opportunity and refuse then they will be lost. But if the church is having a footwashing service it is for the entire local body why wouldn't a saint go and wash another saint's feet. It is a very humbling and moving service. I have been healed and abundantly blessed by washing the saints feet and having my feet washed.

I really got to go to bed but.....there are lots orf reasons.
1. Footwashing was a common practice in Jesus, Moses, and Abrahams day.
it's not common today but just plain wierd.
2. Foot fetish
3. Sanitary reasons

I'll let someone else take over and list more reasons.

Love ya bro steve...Gnight

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Vital - don't think so.

I personally do not like it - I can show humility in other ways.

Oh c'mon Sis! Grab the pumice stone and git ta work on these har calloused dogs of mine!

[freeatlast]

There was quite a fuss at PPH a couple years ago when a new exec took over a dept. and had a foot washing there at Word Aflame Center.

He insisted that they all participate and there was no small stir over it, as the women and men were made to wash each others feet.

Of course in Jesus days women did wash mens feet, and Elder E says we can't take culture in to considration...so I guess this brother was as Dan A. says, he was just more Apostolic than us all.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

I really got to go to bed but.....there are lots orf reasons.
1. Footwashing was a common practice in Jesus, Moses, and Abrahams day.
it's not common today but just plain wierd.
2. Foot fetish
3. Sanitary reasons

I'll let someone else take over and list more reasons.

Love ya bro steve...Gnight

Again Freeatlast you are incorrect it was NOT a common practice for the host to wash the guest's feet. He provided water for the guests and they washed their own feet at their coming INTO the house NOT at the end of a meal.
I just do as Jesus DID and what He said to DO so if I am wrong who misled me?

[Sam]

My personal opinion is that Jesus gave us an example of service.
He taught that we should serve one another by love.
I don't think His words mean that we should literally have regular "foot washing services."

I've been part of churches who practice foot washing. I've participated. I've never heard it mentioned in the church where I have been going since spring of 2006 and we have (open) communion about once a month. I have no problem washing a brother's feet. I think washing feet is symbolic of serving one another. I think Peter was thinking back to that night in the upper room when he wrote these words years later:

1 The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 Neither as being lords over God's heritage, but being examples to the flock.
4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away.
5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
1 Peter 5:1-6

Verse 5 reads:
"put on the apron of humility" Moffatt, ISV"
"wrap yourselves in the garment of humility" NEB
"wear the overall of humility" Phillips
"Clothe (apron) yurselves, ... with humility --as the garb of a servant" Amplified

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Ok, lets see...
1) Repent
2) be baptized according to Acts 2:38
3) be filled with the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues
4) Observe standards (even the long sleeved ones)
5) Wash feet
6) Observe communion
7) Believe in One God
3) Men, DO NOT grow facial hair
4) Attend church EVERY SERVICE
5) Women, DO NOT preach
6) ...and don't cut your hair
7) Obey EVERYTHING your pastor tells you
8) Attend a CONSERVATIVE Apostolic Church
9) Do not own, watch or even glimpse at a TV
...and thou shalt be saved.

Have I missed anything?

Please don't think I'm ridiculing anyones convictions over any of the above. What I find disturbing is that its seems NO ONE is ever "quite" saved. The list seems to be growing day by day. Salvation is dangled in front of peoples eyes, just out of reach, like a carrot. At the beginning of Hs earthly ministry, Jesus simply said Repent. Peter comes along and says Repent and be baptized and get the Holy Ghost. The requirements for salvation has grown now (depending on who you listen to) to incude everything from the name on your church building to whats in your medicine cabinet. No wonder people are confused and are turning away from the Apostolic church.

Salvation has become an unreachable goal. Its out there... just in front of us...but we can never quite reach it. The brand of Apostolic Doctrine being preached in many quarters today offers no salvation. Only a promise of salvation that can never quite be attained. What is being preached today offers no joy. It offers no liberty in Christ. It does not set the captive free. It offers only bondage, restriction and regulation. Those enslaved in these "Prisons with Stained Glass Windows" as one evangelist described them, are burdened with guilt and bound with a yoke of fear. Thank God there is true salvation, available and free to all who obey the call of Christ to come unto Him, for His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

And thats my opinion.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Please don't think I'm ridiculing anyones convictions over any of the above. What I find disturbing is that its seems NO ONE is ever "quite" saved. The list seems to be growing day by day. Salvation is dangled in front of peoples eyes, just out of reach, like a carrot. At the beginning of Hs earthly ministry, Jesus simply said Repent. Peter comes along and says Repent and be baptized and get the Holy Ghost. The requirements for salvation has grown now (depending on who you listen to) to incude everything from the name on your church building to whats in your medicine cabinet. No wonder people are confused and are turning away from the Apostolic church.

Salvation has become an unreachable goal. Its out there... just in front of us...but we can never quite reach it. The brand of Apostolic Doctrine being preached in many quarters today offers no salvation. Only a promise of salvation that can never quite be attained. What is being preached today offers no joy. It offers no liberty in Christ. It does not set the captive free. It offers only bondage, restriction and regulation. Those enslaved in these "Prisons with Stained Glass Windows" as one evangelist described them, are burdened with guilt and bound with a yoke of fear. Thank God there is true salvation, available and free to all who obey the call of Christ to come unto Him, for His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

And thats my opinion.

His yoke is easy what is difficult about washing the saint's feet or taking the Lord's Supper? I have no doubt some will be in the Rapture who have done neither because the opportunity was not afforded them. But a saved person cannot reject and neglect the commandments of the Lord and meet Him in peace. I have "liberty" to obey Him nothing hard or difficult about that whatsoever.