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Old 12-05-2007, 09:17 PM
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Paul is not referring to clothes, the church was full of sexual perversion. Our holiness in in Christ.


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That perfect man was Jesus, thats what Paul is saying. You can't be perfect regardless how hard you try. Don't misinterpret the scripture, he tells you what he is saying...unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. When we dwell in Christ, we are made righteous through Him!
The scripture don't need interpretation.It says only one thing.

Cor.2:6: Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are PERFECT: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: 7: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory

Col.1:28: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

Math.48: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect
1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Only the perfect will be the bride.You can be a guest if you like.

Math.22:[1] And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,[2] The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,[3] And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.[4] Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.[5] But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:[6] And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.[7] But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.[8] Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.[9] Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.[10] So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.[11] And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:[12] And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.[13] Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.[14] For many are called, but few are chosen
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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The scripture don't need interpretation.It says only one thing.

Col.1:28: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Again, you are making my point for me...perfect in Christ Jesus! Not you dude!


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Math.48: Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect
This word perfect means to be mature. Not to act as a child.

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1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
THIS HOPE IS JESUS! BECAUSE HE IS IN US IT PURIFIES US!!! HELLO!

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Only the perfect will be the bride.You can be a guest if you like.
Are you saying you are perfect? The only way we are made perfect or brought to maturity is in Jesus! UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:29 PM
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This is being perfect,note underlined.

Eph.5:3: But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;4: Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God
Gal.5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts

1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God

1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him

1 John3:7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God

Gal.4:19: My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1Peter1:22: Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23: Being born again, not of corruptible seed,(word) but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever
Eph.5:25: Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;26: That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,27: That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish


1 John2:5: But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6: He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:31 PM
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This is being perfect,note underlined.

Eph.5:3: But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;4: Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God
Gal.5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God
24: And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts

1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God

1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him

1 John3:7: Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.8: He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.9: Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God

Gal.4:19: My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you
1Peter1:22: Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23: Being born again, not of corruptible seed,(word) but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever
Eph.5:25: Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;26: That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,27: That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish


1 John2:5: But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 6: He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked
I'm not even going to waste my breath anymore...peace out!
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:31 PM
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Fi ... fi ... fo ... fum ... I smell a legalist.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:33 PM
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Fi ... fi ... fo ... fum ... I smell a legalist.
Unbelievable DA, I didn't think they existed like this! I'm blown away.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:35 PM
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Unbelievable DA, I didn't think they existed like this! I'm blown away.
There are 2 or 3 on here that hold the "I'm perfect, right now" doctrine ... Joelel is one of them.
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:15 PM
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Unbelievable DA, I didn't think they existed like this! I'm blown away.
You mean you don't believe few preach the truth and find their way in.

Math.7:[14] Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
[15] Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
[19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them
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[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity(sin).
[24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
[25] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
[26] And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
[27] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
[28] And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:02 PM
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Hi,so tell me,what is modest dress to you ? Is showing half your chest or tight cloths or skirts above your knees or bathing suits modest to you ?
None of those are modest and I have never seen those things at my church...what about yours?
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:02 PM
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None of those are modest and I have never seen those things at my church...what about yours?
I don't have a home assembly,can't find one that preaches enough truth.I can understand a assembly can be off a little on their teaching but most are to fare off for me.I can't go some place and not preach truth to them and then when you do you start getting cold sholders.So i'm not interested in all the bitterness.Bitterness on these forums is enough for me,I reach some people with truth once in a while, but most people are not interested in what they must do to be saved.Most are deceived in to believing they can live any kind of life and believe lies and still be saved.I just preach around at different assemblies.God opens doors and I win a few to full truth.
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