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Old 12-09-2007, 06:24 PM
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The UPCI has a stipulation that a minister can not hold license in organizations other than the UPC. So will the new "fellowship" be in the spirit of this bylaw or just keeping to the letter?

Are we going to discuss the merits of keeping the spirit versus the letter of the law?

That would be a rich discussion if we got the AS thrown in there.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:09 PM
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Are we going to discuss the merits of keeping the spirit versus the letter of the law?

That would be a rich discussion if we got the AS thrown in there.
That actually might be a good discussion to have, with or without the AS thrown in. Perhaps a new thread might be in order.........in the spirit with letters of course...
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:11 PM
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In addition to JC taking the current church that has grown, in Newport News, VA he took a church with 1 member (an elderly lady) and built the church to well over 300...souls are a part of who he is...in addition, JC is a preachers friend and a mentor to many young ministers...and based upon the numbers that is something that the UPC is lacking


Been there a few times......"well over 300" is a stretch.
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Old 12-09-2007, 07:11 PM
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That actually might be a good discussion to have, with or without the AS thrown in. Perhaps a new thread might be in order.........in the spirit with letters of course...
The way the AS gets trashed normally by many of the members here, we can see already where that would head.
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:34 PM
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I thought the subject WAS JC & the GS...

KH will not push JC...believe me...

JC is doing GI because he's the best for it...CC is not...but having said that...

it doesn't a GS make.
believe me he will and IS pushing JC.
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Old 12-09-2007, 10:35 PM
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Been there a few times......"well over 300" is a stretch.
I live by there and the church he originally pastored is WELL over 500 right now

The one he pastors now is over 700.

no stretching, just facts.
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Old 12-10-2007, 10:44 AM
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If the truth were revealed, most pastors would be much more cautious in their giving, or would want to give directly to a specific cause.
I heard something along this line from a former Foreign Missionary back in 1988, so I am not surprised. I know of a church (in the 70's) that always supported UPC Foreign Missionaries, but sent funds direct, not thru the org.

Does anyone audit WEC?
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:11 AM
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Are we going to discuss the merits of keeping the spirit versus the letter of the law?

That would be a rich discussion if we got the AS thrown in there.
LOL! cuz in addition to discussing all those signing the letter but not living by it, we could discuss how the letter itself is a violation of the spirit of the merger!


this could lead to all sorts of Forum fun
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Old 12-10-2007, 11:13 AM
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I heard something along this line from a former Foreign Missionary back in 1988, so I am not surprised. I know of a church (in the 70's) that always supported UPC Foreign Missionaries, but sent funds direct, not thru the org.

Does anyone audit WEC?
I dont know the name of the firm, but the answer is yes. WEC is audited on a regular basis by an outside auditing firm. One of the big 5 i think....(Is it the big 5 or big4?)

If memory serves, it was stated at GC this year that WECs adminstrative expendatures were lower than the average denomination.
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Have you heard that Jack Cunningham is being Groomed to be the Next GS of the UPC????????

I wont say who is promoting it but they are in the position to do it !!!
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