((((((((((((TULSA BOMBSHELL))))))))) "49 Elders" Explained!! See this LIST

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by Aquila

After claiming that they had no intention to form a new organization here they are....forming a new organization.

I wonder how they can imagine that God will bless something birthed in a bed of lies? Is this what outward "holiness standards" can lead to? I can't imagine that God will bless this after so many have lied about it. Sure, they stand for dressing modestly and not having television...but if they can lie like the devil about this for so long it underscores the moral bankruptcy the movement will be founded upon. It reveals what spirit these are of.

Sadly, many good men are going to be swayed into linking up with them for fear of looking "liberal" if they stay with the UPCI.

I see Pastor David Smith in Brewer on the list. I'm assuming his son, Pastor Bradly Smith (OH) may also be leaving the UPCI. This is really sad. Starting a fellowship while lying about it only justifies the more liberal brothers who are staying with the UPCI. Maybe God allowed the television resolution to pass to flush out the old leaven.

I will say again, just because they have a plan does NOT mean they will form an organization. Even a fellowship of unlicensed ministers needs a guideline.

I defend this, even if Bro. Riggen feels I am making statements I am not making.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

I will say again, just because they have a plan does NOT mean they will form an organization. Even a fellowship of unlicensed ministers needs a guideline.

I defend this, even if Bro. Riggen feels I am making statements I am not making.

But it apparently is their intention to form one, so what is the difference?

[retsambeW]

Pastor Poster,

Not all of the men on that list want an org. Why don't we wait until the Tulsa meeting is over and see what happens? If they form one...well that will tell a lot. If they don't, who cares? God is certainly aware in advance, but last I looked, my business card, nor yours, said God in the title line.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

Pastor Poster,

Not all of the men on that list want an org. Why don't we wait until the Tulsa meeting is over and see what happens? If they form one...well that will tell a lot. If they don't, who cares? God is certainly aware in advance, but last I looked, my business card, nor yours, said God in the title line.

Too funny.

It never ends.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

Pastor Poster,

Not all of the men on that list want an org. Why don't we wait until the Tulsa meeting is over and see what happens? If they form one...well that will tell a lot. If they don't, who cares? God is certainly aware in advance, but last I looked, my business card, nor yours, said God in the title line.

BTW, I really do believe some of these men believe if it ain't comin' outa their chimney, it ain't smoke.

They have learned well from a system that is corrupt to the very core.

There is something inherently wrong with us when lying, deception and all sorts of unethical behavior is deemed okay. That is, it's okay if someone in power does it.

If someone in Podunksville, Arkansas who pastors a small church and gives little to the coffers of the orgs does it, he's probably gonna get the cat-o-nine from his morally superior "elders."

[SDG]

Originally Posted by retsambeW

I will say again, just because they have a plan does NOT mean they will form an organization. Even a fellowship of unlicensed ministers needs a guideline.

I defend this, even if Bro. Riggen feels I am making statements I am not making.

Oh!!!!!!!!!!! *smacks self in the forehead*

... I see ... just because they're planning it... doesn't mean they're forming it ...

The problem was in our question ... not in the deceptive answer. Gotcha.

[retsambeW]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Oh!!!!!!!!!!! *smacks self in the forehead*

... I see ... just because they're planning it... doesn't mean they're forming it ...

The problem was in our question ... not in the deceptive answer. Gotcha.

Let's see...because they have a list of elders makes it an organization. Oh, I see. God died, and bequeathed his powers of all knowingness to DA.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Aquila

After claiming that they had no intention to form a new organization here they are....forming a new organization.

I wonder how they can imagine that God will bless something birthed in a bed of lies? Is this what outward "holiness standards" can lead to? I can't imagine that God will bless this after so many have lied about it. Sure, they stand for dressing modestly and not having television...but if they can lie like the devil about this for so long it underscores the moral bankruptcy the movement will be founded upon. It reveals what spirit these are of.

Sadly, many good men are going to be swayed into linking up with them for fear of looking "liberal" if they stay with the UPCI.

I see Pastor David Smith in Brewer on the list. I'm assuming his son, Pastor Bradly Smith (OH) may also be leaving the UPCI. This is really sad. Starting a fellowship while lying about it only justifies the more liberal brothers who are staying with the UPCI. Maybe God allowed the television resolution to pass to flush out the old leaven.

WOW!!!! Now that a mouth full there!!

I will say at this point that there were people on this forum who were torn to shreds for stating that they were starting a fellowship.

will there be any apologies from the pastors/preachers who denied it ?

[Brother Price]

One had called a brother and said that in a few years, the UPC would be welcoming makeup and jewelry on the platform. That, to me at least, is a lie. And this is not the first time someone has said that someone has tried to use this tactic on here, if I am not mistaken.

[SDG]

Just a "loose fellowship " .... yet w/ all the trimmings of an org .... it's a clone!!!!

ROFL