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Old 12-14-2007, 11:42 AM
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It is our Elitist attitude that is our plague. I got the holy ghost and they don't.

So many stop right therre and stdy the word no further for themselves.
We have among us some of the most biblically ignorant people in the world.

Before you all shoot me, we do have some among us who have studied the word in depth.

For instance, Unregistered one of the most studious posters among us. Always right on topic. Always the right answer. Unregistered is the the greatest all time smartest poster on this forum.

AHHHH! That's so confusing that thing where everyone's name shows up.

Anyways, call it elitist, but I do believe there is one way to salvation. Now GOD can be more merciful than HE said in HIS Word, but we're not promised that. So are "they" saved like us, no.

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Old 12-14-2007, 11:46 AM
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AHHHH! That's so confusing that thing where everyone's name shows up.

Anyways, call it elitist, but I do believe there is one way to salvation. Now GOD can be more merciful than HE said in HIS Word, but we're not promised that. So are "they" saved like us, no.

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You correct Sept5SavedTeen, they are saved by grace thru their faith...not like us, by our works.
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:49 AM
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Bro,

Acts 2:38 was not salvation by "works" for me.

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Old 12-14-2007, 11:50 AM
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I like you too...tell monkey man hello for me. We grew up together...
... wow... so were you institutialized for very long afterward?

institutianalized... how do you spell that?
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:57 AM
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Bro,

Acts 2:38 was not salvation by "works" for me.

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This is not very wise...why is it that you guys can't look past acts 2:38? This is exactly what I'm talking about.
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Old 12-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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... wow... so were you institutialized for very long afterward?

institutianalized... how do you spell that?
You can download spellchecker for internet explorer for free. It'll work with any web page. I've known the Ramirez family my whole life.
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:41 PM
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I agree, but the bible tells us to ask God for wisdom and he will give it to us. Again, if we are so spiritual, why are we so STUPID!!!
who says "we" are so stupid? why would we be more wise than anyone else?

the bible says "get wisdom" it doesnt say you get it by virtue of getting the Holy Ghost.

also, what kind of wisdom are you talking about? Wisdom that is from above or human wisdom?
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Old 12-14-2007, 12:51 PM
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who says "we" are so stupid? why would we be more wise than anyone else?

the bible says "get wisdom" it doesnt say you get it by virtue of getting the Holy Ghost.

also, what kind of wisdom are you talking about? Wisdom that is from above or human wisdom?
We is a universal term. We would be more wise because we are supposed to be more spiritual. As I stated earlier, the holier you are the closer you are to God. If we are really holy, we should be wise too.
Solomon received wisdom from above. All wisdom comes from God. All intellect comes from God. There is no such thing as human wisdom. Any wisdom we receive would be a gift from God.

My point is this; many people think just because they receive the H.G., they suddenly have all wisdom and refuse to open their minds to greater understanding. This is evidenced by ignorant thinking. The possibility of being wrong eludes many.
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Since this is a day of great wisdom, shall we consider this deep and philosophical thought.

Just because you are Apostolic does that make one wise?

Does having perceived truth or revelation make on wise?

Because you baptize in Jesus Name does that make you wiser than other Christians?

Does having the H.G. make you wiser?

And lastly, does education or learning give you wisdom?

Does wisdom equate to intellect? Many geniuses can't function in the real world.

Does too much learning actually make you mad? (as in crazy)

Raised in the church and in the ministry most of my adult life, I've witnessed pastors, preachers and laity alike do some pretty dumb stuff.

If we really do have the full revelation of the Godhead, the full revelation of Salvation, the full revelation of the H.G., why are we so backward and stupid at times?
I have learned that while the Holy Ghost can direct behavior, the Holy Ghost does not instantly change someone's nature, nor does it change personality.

I know some pretty stupid people who have the Holy Ghost, who have advance degrees, and conversely some of the wisest and most intelligent people I have ever met had neither.

This is the basis for one of MY conundrums, why is it that folks in the UPC believes that everyone in the mainstream who receives the Holy Ghost will soon be knocking at their door.
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Old 12-14-2007, 01:10 PM
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We is a universal term. We would be more wise because we are supposed to be more spiritual. As I stated earlier, the holier you are the closer you are to God. If we are really holy, we should be wise too.
Solomon received wisdom from above. All wisdom comes from God. All intellect comes from God. There is no such thing as human wisdom. Any wisdom we receive would be a gift from God.

My point is this; many people think just because they receive the H.G., they suddenly have all wisdom and refuse to open their minds to greater understanding. This is evidenced by ignorant thinking. The possibility of being wrong eludes many.
the good think is, we have identified another point to disagree on! LOL!

I know some folk that are as lost as two boys kissing that are wise in the ways of the world.

being spiritual doesnt make one wise. it makes one spiritual.

being Apostolic doesnt make one wise it makes one Apostolic.
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