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Originally Posted by tv1a
Clarification Thad. I don't believe a person is going to hell for handling snakes in church. I beleive it is ridiculous to take all of mark 16 literally except for handling snakes. Inconsistant.
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Originally Posted by tv1a
You haven't proven or disproven the other viewpoint is an incorrect one. It's not something I would do, but I don't see in scripture they will burn in hell for picking up a snake.
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That's a "straw man" argument. No one is saying people will go to hell for picking up a snake. You're the only one even bringing that up .
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Originally Posted by tv1a
You haven't proven or disproven the other viewpoint is an incorrect one. It's not something I would do, but I don't see in scripture they will burn in hell for picking up a snake.
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Why
wouldn't you do it, since you seem to think of it on the same level as the other signs listed in that passage.
you would have no problem speaking in tongues would you? or laying hands on the sick to be healed? Or casting out a devil.
So why all of a sudden when it comes to this.. you declare it's not something you would do? There's a glaring inconsistency there, and I think we both see it.
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Based on your logic the signs following the believers should fall in your lap. If I were to interpret your logic I would say the healings, speaking in tongues just happen. Either you take the entire passage literally or take the passage as symbolic piece.
I think the best way to read the passage is the way it is written.
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*sigh"
Tv1...No, healings, speaking in tongues etc, happen
when appropriate for the situation.
I think based on wisdom that God gives us, and a common sense reading of scripture, we see these signs are done
when called for.
Theres a proper time for all things, as even Solomon himself said.
Applying that to
Mark 16.
There are times when
casting out devils is called for.
There are times when
speaking in tongues is appropriate. There are also times when its not.
There is a time to
lay hands on the sick, so they can recover.
Tell us.. when is it
necessary to drink something deadly just for the sake of doing it?
Do we see in scripture anyone ever doing it? No.
When is it
necessary for anyone
to pick up serpents just to "test God" ? Do we see anyone in scripture doing it like that? No. The only time anyone
handles a serpent is when Paul does it in
Acts 28 because it was necessary at in that situation. His life was threatened by the situation so the Lord gave him protection.
(We see the apostles in the book of Acts healing, casting out devils, laying hands, etc all the time. We never see them gather round and put on a show drinking poison or handling snakes in front of everybody to "test" or "prove" God's power. Why do you think that is? Think about that.)
So my question to you is, if God wants us to take up serpents in church just to "prove" him.. by your logic, and your reading of scripture He must want us to drink deadly things too in church. So why is it you dont see "
cyanide drinking services" like you have "
snake handling services"? Is it perhaps because snake handling is seen by some as more "thrilling"? If the Lord directed these people to have "snake handling services" I cant figure why it seems He never asked them to drink from vats of cyanide-laced Kool-aid too. Wouldn't that be a good way to "test' God too?
As a matter of fact, TV1a, if you think we should just indiscriminately take the verse at face value ,
without applying common sense to the situation... lets see
you drink from a vat of cyanide, just so you can prove God's power in your life. Then come back and tell us how it went. If we dont hear back from you, I guess we'll just assume you're "absent from the body, but present with the Lord" .
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