REVEREND JOHN SUBER - Leaving Ken Phillip's PROMISELAND??????

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

How many have you known personally who have left the apostolic doctrine and went on to becoming like TF or GB?

I'm not sure who the initials are, but I have personally known several who took off in that direction and wound up not believing in the essentiality of the New Birth.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

No comment to that.

I passed through Salina on the 18th. I was at the 24-7 store, near Russell's Restaurant.

While there, I prayed for you and your family, and your church.

That is where I get gas most of the time. i sure wish you had called.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

That is where I get gas most of the time. i sure wish you had called.

Maybe next time.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I'm not sure who the initials are, but I have personally known several who took off in that direction and wound up not believing in the essentiality of the New Birth.

Fudge and Boyd. They are both Trinitarians now.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

No comment to that.

I passed through Salina on the 18th. I was at the 24-7 store, near Russell's Restaurant.

While there, I prayed for you and your family, and your church.

But did you pray for your food?

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by CC1

But did you pray for your food?

LoL

[LaGirl]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

You said he "TRIED" to start a church in Dallas...I said, "He may have thought about it out loud"...meaning that he might have been considering it but after floating it out there he felt is was not the right thing to do...

JS never tried to start a church in Dallas...did he rent a building? No. Did he file for a non-profit incorporation? No. This was before he turned his license in...Did he contact the Texas District about starting a church? No. Did he seek home Missions support or approval? No...

So..he did not TRY to start a church in Dallas...float it out to some friends as a possible destiny for his ministry...maybe...but try to start a church...not...

The shots at the Subers revolve around the innuendos presented about him moving around (like you guys are questioning his stability, character, and such)...whether or not there is trouble in Austin...whether or not his wife has changed her appearance...and so on...

You claim tis thread is about Shreveport...then why throw in the other pastorates and his changing location as he felt God wanted him to...and what about the stuff about Steph...and what about the stuff about Promisedland....

Maybe you should show this thread to your best friends (JH) and see what they think about your comments and the way JS had been presented in this thread...and while you are at it tell "J" we enjoyed having him in our home a few months ago....

who is JH?

does he not move around alot???????????????? i dont recall saying he isnt stable or questioning his character??????????

steph has changed her appearance. maybe you didnt read what ALL i said. i was not "sending her to hell over it" just answering a question......

[LaGirl]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

You said he "TRIED" to start a church in Dallas...I said, "He may have thought about it out loud"...meaning that he might have been considering it but after floating it out there he felt is was not the right thing to do...

JS never tried to start a church in Dallas...did he rent a building? No. Did he file for a non-profit incorporation? No. This was before he turned his license in...Did he contact the Texas District about starting a church? No. Did he seek home Missions support or approval? No...

So..he did not TRY to start a church in Dallas...float it out to some friends as a possible destiny for his ministry...maybe...but try to start a church...not...

The shots at the Subers revolve around the innuendos presented about him moving around (like you guys are questioning his stability, character, and such)...whether or not there is trouble in Austin...whether or not his wife has changed her appearance...and so on...

You claim tis thread is about Shreveport...then why throw in the other pastorates and his changing location as he felt God wanted him to...and what about the stuff about Steph...and what about the stuff about Promisedland....

Maybe you should show this thread to your best friends (JH) and see what they think about your comments and the way JS had been presented in this thread...and while you are at it tell "J" we enjoyed having him in our home a few months ago....

and btw...about dallas...when i heard him talking about it...he did not say...I MAY try and start a work in dallas, he said I AM starting a work there. my bad for making a mistake and repeating something he said he was going to do.

[Mrs. LPW]

I'm still waiting for this thread to explode... some folks must not have come online yet...

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

I will repeat again, The people of God have always looked different than the rest of the World around them. If we look like them then we are no different from them.

I am not attacking anyone. I am not judging anyone, but I must stand on the Word of God.

This is an extremely irresponsible statement. The people of God have always looked different? Are Moslems people of God? Are Mormons people of God? Are Mennonites people of God?

What do you mean look different from the world? Like long hair or no makeup? LIke jean skirts and poofs? Because all of the above seem to have the same dress code too as UPCites.

You have absolutely no scripture to back up this statement. And look different how? It's amazing to me that you guys make such ridiculous statements and Jesus never once addressed how a person dressed or the clothes they wore, the length of the hair or facial hair. As a matter of fact, the only ones he chastised were the religious elite pharisees who were dressed "holy" too.

I know preachers who preached against long dresses when they were in style in the 70's because we weren't supposed to follow the world.

Sir, styles change. Today homosexual men have short hair. We are not to be clothed with the styles of the world, we are to be clothed with Christ. Our personal attire should be modest. Many applications women in the modern world find themselves in are more modest with pants. This does not mean they are not people of God.

If you're clothes could save you, you wouldn't need the cross!