The second law of thermodynamics says, and I paraphrase, "Any system left to itself tends toward maximum disorder".
Just look at our physical bodies, our environment, etc. If we don't take care of things, and keep on top of things, those things don't get better on their own - it takes constant vigilance to make things better, and it only takes doing absolutely nothing for things to get worse.
And it would probably scare us if we knew the exact number of saints who do nothing...
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
When the things you do are initiated by, motivated by and empowered by the Holy Ghost, then you have entered into His rest. (Rom 4:10-11)
You are not drifting anymore
This is very true, and if you are still striving, maybe you have not "entered into His rest". When we are truly His, we take on His yoke and His burden, and these are easy and light, according to Jesus himself. His righteousness needs to flow out of us naturally because of whose we are, easy and light. He has accepted us and given us His righteousness, it is a free gift.
Good night, BL
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
Considering the omnipresence of God (Acts 17:27-28) I wonder how one could "drift away from God."
Taking your statement about "saints who do nothing" into consideration, I wonder if you might be asking about people who are not as involved in church activities as they once were? The "drifting" might be a consequence of people not finding any fruit or satisfaction in the church activities. Many times I've seen churches fall into a pattern of "busy work" where people's schedules are filled with meetings and duties but their lives are not being filled with anything meaningful.
Personally, I want to be a part of something that is "happening" and "alive." And not just "pretend," but something that has measurable results. When I find that I'm wasting my time by being "busy" filling a space in someone else's social network, then I fear that I may have been "drifting" all along.
And it would probably scare us if we knew the exact number of saints who do nothing...
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Considering the omnipresence of God (Acts 17:27-28) I wonder how one could "drift away from God."
Taking your statement about "saints who do nothing" into consideration, I wonder if you might be asking about people who are not as involved in church activities as they once were? The "drifting" might be a consequence of people not finding any fruit or satisfaction in the church activities. Many times I've seen churches fall into a pattern of "busy work" where people's schedules are filled with meetings and duties but their lives are not being filled with anything meaningful.
Personally, I want to be a part of something that is "happening" and "alive." And not just "pretend," but something that has measurable results. When I find that I'm wasting my time by being "busy" filling a space in someone else's social network, then I fear that I may have been "drifting" all along.
While all of this is true, Pela, there is another angle, and, Mrs. L, laziness and complaceny may only be part of the problem.
One can be doing all of the necessary 'things'...church attendance, tithe, 'look' the part, even have a busy life of service, and yet have drifted on the inside...that place where true holiness abides, and begins.
Working out of habit or sense of duty, with no thought of true service in the Kingdom...not doing it for the sake of the call, but for the sake of applause or "what's in it for me?!"
These folk are yet in the building, but have drifted in their spirit.
When we have no regard for the Lord's Body...when we can injure and malign and feel no remorse...when we can altar the Word to fit our own selfish will and desire, it is a sure sign that we have head knowledge, but the Word has not penetrated the soul.
We have drifted and don't even know the difference.
The glory has departed because we have moved from our spiritual place...just my thoughts...
Considering the omnipresence of God (Acts 17:27-28) I wonder how one could "drift away from God."
Taking your statement about "saints who do nothing" into consideration, I wonder if you might be asking about people who are not as involved in church activities as they once were? The "drifting" might be a consequence of people not finding any fruit or satisfaction in the church activities. Many times I've seen churches fall into a pattern of "busy work" where people's schedules are filled with meetings and duties but their lives are not being filled with anything meaningful.
Personally, I want to be a part of something that is "happening" and "alive." And not just "pretend," but something that has measurable results. When I find that I'm wasting my time by being "busy" filling a space in someone else's social network, then I fear that I may have been "drifting" all along.
My comment had nothing to do with "churches", it was in reference to personal consecration, i.e., prayer, reading the word, acting on the word, etc.
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
My comment had nothing to do with "churches", it was in reference to personal consecration, i.e., prayer, reading the word, acting on the word, etc.
If someone does those things, they are pretty likely to be involved in a local church, unless they are duped into the idea that the local assembly isn't important.
This is very true, and if you are still striving, maybe you have not "entered into His rest". When we are truly His, we take on His yoke and His burden, and these are easy and light, according to Jesus himself. His righteousness needs to flow out of us naturally because of whose we are, easy and light. He has accepted us and given us His righteousness, it is a free gift.
Good night, BL
The thought pattern I had, and the one I believe this radio preacher was discussing, was not about "striving" but that we should beware of getting into this laid back, floating down the lazy river till heaven, mentality. And also, the drifting off in one direction or the other, away from the Lord and his Truth...
Anyone can "drift" or get off track. Lose sight of their purpose.
And anyone can get in the church and then sit, and let others do the paddling to keep the Kingdom of God moving forward... If we aren't doing our part to win the lost even... I see that has just drifting too.
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
Considering the omnipresence of God (Acts 17:27-28) I wonder how one could "drift away from God."
Taking your statement about "saints who do nothing" into consideration, I wonder if you might be asking about people who are not as involved in church activities as they once were? The "drifting" might be a consequence of people not finding any fruit or satisfaction in the church activities. Many times I've seen churches fall into a pattern of "busy work" where people's schedules are filled with meetings and duties but their lives are not being filled with anything meaningful.
Personally, I want to be a part of something that is "happening" and "alive." And not just "pretend," but something that has measurable results. When I find that I'm wasting my time by being "busy" filling a space in someone else's social network, then I fear that I may have been "drifting" all along.
"difting away from God" is an anaology of how we lose sight of our first love and have to return to it sometimes. As with all analogy's it's just that... an analogy... and of course it's not perfect. One can pick a part ANY analogy.
When I was talking about people doing "nothing" I was thinking more along the lines of, non existant prayer lives, selfish living, etc.
I wasn't talking about bake sales and singing in the choir, or even teaching Sunday school... I firmly believe you can do all those things and not be gaining ground Spiritually... you can be doing all those things and not seeing the Kingdom of God moving forward in your city. You can even be doing all those things and not be right with God yourself on the inside.
And that is to in no way, negate the importance of doing such things for the Kingdom either... just that our walk with God is a daily thing... dying daily...
__________________ Mrs. LPW
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
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