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12-26-2007, 01:27 PM
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How can you have true discussion if you are allowed to hold to only one view?
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discussion is fine, but if you are going to name a forum and state a doctrine of belief then the forum should stick to that.
We don't hold a "view" we hold the "Truth" as written in the Word of God which is God and revealed by the Spirit to those who are filled with the Spirit. Period. There is no "views", interpretations, etc. Everytime someone make that statement "what that means is"........ewwww I just cringe and want to crawl under something so the lightening thats coming don't singe me. It means what it says, and says what it means. Period.
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12-26-2007, 01:27 PM
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Everybody believes in Acts 2:38. But there are different interpretations of what Peter was saying there.
I believe it in the Oneness Apostolic tradition. Namely that you must repent, you must be baptized in Jesus name and then there is the promise of the Spirit.
I didn't even have to have anyone to tell me to repent. I did that as a natural result of Holy Spirit conviction, realizing I was a sinner and in need of a Savior. Repentance was the natural and immediate response to realizing I was a sinner. |
Yes, there are different interpretations and I find it sad that we can't discuss them.
I do have to agree with some here saying the "spirit" in which some of these discussions are posted is more the problem than not beliving in Acts 2:38.
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12-26-2007, 01:32 PM
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This is well put.
I can't define myself, because my experiences are different than others who post here. I suppose some would call me a 1 stepper, some would say I hold to more steps than the 3 here. I don't get the intense focus on one verse to, nearly, the exclusion of the rest of the Bible.
Hey, while I'm making enemies. I don't get the big Trinitarian/Oneness thing either. Neither is really quite right, both have facets of truth. NEITHER will save you. Only Jesus can do that...
And I stay out of debate usually cuz it's just interesting reading, but something I can't get into at this point in my life.
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The problem with Acts 2:38 is not the 3 steps.
It has become the alter of some.
They have never moved past the alter.
It is not the completion of salvation for many.
If you take one more breath after completing.
You still have life to live before you complete the journey.
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12-26-2007, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty
discussion is fine, but if you are going to name a forum and state a doctrine of belief then the forum should stick to that.
We don't hold a "view" we hold the "Truth" as written in the Word of God which is God and revealed by the Spirit to those who are filled with the Spirit. Period. There is no "views", interpretations, etc. Everytime someone make that statement "what that means is"........ewwww I just cringe and want to crawl under something so the lightening thats coming don't singe me. It means what it says, and says what it means. Period.
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I understand what you're saying but I think that a forum can stick to what they feel is right doctrine, at the same time allowing discussion of it.
The fact that someone disagrees with me does not lessen or diminish TRUTH. The fact that I disagree with you doesn't negate TRUTH.
There are enough people here of a number of different views who have the opportunity and ability to defend and articulate ably enough what they believe to be truth.
That's my opinion. 
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12-26-2007, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
Yes, there are different interpretations and I find it sad that we can't discuss them.
I do have to agree with some here saying the "spirit" in which some of these discussions are posted is more the problem than not beliving in Acts 2:38. |
NO there is not , thats the problem, when we allow ourselves to start making up our own "interpretations" is when we splinter as the body of Christ.!!!! Who is making these interpretations?!?!?! MAN!!! Quit listening to man,, pray , pray , pray, Our Lord is not a God of confusion!! The father of lies will draw you from God. The way is NARROW. Many will come saying I have served you and He will say go from me for I know you not!!!!!
You know why it can't be up for discussion? BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN NOT BE RIGHT!!!!!!!
SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.!!!
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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12-26-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty
NO there is not , thats the problem, when we allow ourselves to start making up our own "interpretations" is when we splinter as the body of Christ.!!!! Who is making these interpretations?!?!?! MAN!!! Quit listening to man,, pray , pray , pray, Our Lord is not a God of confusion!! The father of lies will draw you from God. The way is NARROW. Many will come saying I have served you and He will say go from me for I know you not!!!!!
You know why it can't be up for discussion? BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN NOT BE RIGHT!!!!!!!
SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.!!!
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Everybody can't be right - probably true - and that might include you as well as me bro.
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12-26-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by scotty
NO there is not , thats the problem, when we allow ourselves to start making up our own "interpretations" is when we splinter as the body of Christ.!!!! Who is making these interpretations?!?!?! MAN!!! Quit listening to man,, pray , pray , pray, Our Lord is not a God of confusion!! The father of lies will draw you from God. The way is NARROW. Many will come saying I have served you and He will say go from me for I know you not!!!!!
You know why it can't be up for discussion? BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN NOT BE RIGHT!!!!!!!
SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.!!!
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Welcome Scotty!
You are completely right - not everyone can be right.
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12-26-2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
How can you have true discussion if you are allowed to hold to only one view?
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We have left off discussion it seems and resorted to seeing some work so hard at tearing every single strand of hint of what many of us believe in.
Scotty, you are not being unseen here. You were right on target.
It becomes a little worse when name calling and sidestepping is involved. No longer can we have issues discussed here and that makes things stale and negative.
I won't have time to catch up totally due to work this afternoon, but wondered at the results of this important question.
Do we have an Apostolic, or Ex-Apostolic site here anymore??
Thank you also Sir Ferd and Ronb for your reply that some are interested in fair discussion of issues not the daily smack and run.
Renda, you know this was not point to you also.
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12-26-2007, 01:40 PM
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Then who's right? How do you figure that out?
What I believe (yes I do believe that all 3 steps need to be followed) isn't really close to what I hear being taught from the pulpit or even here.
I do agree with you that there's only one correct interpretation, I just can't really let someone else come up with what that is for me. Been told far too many things that aren't at all true over the years to just jump in and take someone's word for anything anymore.
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Originally Posted by scotty
NO there is not , thats the problem, when we allow ourselves to start making up our own "interpretations" is when we splinter as the body of Christ.!!!! Who is making these interpretations?!?!?! MAN!!! Quit listening to man,, pray , pray , pray, Our Lord is not a God of confusion!! The father of lies will draw you from God. The way is NARROW. Many will come saying I have served you and He will say go from me for I know you not!!!!!
You know why it can't be up for discussion? BECAUSE EVERYBODY CAN NOT BE RIGHT!!!!!!!
SEEK YE FIRST THE KINGDOM OF GOD, AND ALL THESE THINGS WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.!!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty
discussion is fine, but if you are going to name a forum and state a doctrine of belief then the forum should stick to that.
We don't hold a "view" we hold the "Truth" as written in the Word of God which is God and revealed by the Spirit to those who are filled with the Spirit. Period. There is no "views", interpretations, etc. Everytime someone make that statement "what that means is"........ewwww I just cringe and want to crawl under something so the lightening thats coming don't singe me. It means what it says, and says what it means. Period.
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Scotty, I'll ask you the question that StMatthew will never answer: Why don't you hold to the beliefs of the founders of the Apostolic Faith movement? They were the ones who coined the phrase "Apostolic Faith" and applied it to their practice of Spirit filled worship and associated beliefs.
If you call yourself "Apostolic" why don't you believe what the pioneers of this movement preached?
I'll add BOOMMster's question as well...
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
Do we have an Apostolic, or Ex-Apostolic site here anymore??
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BOOMM, why don't you believe what our founders taught?
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