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I think folks would be shocked how many people get the HG there every service. They actually push it pretty strong. None of that ever makes the camera's obviously.
I know one OP based church that grew by 600 last year and the pastor told me that 90% of the people were from Lakewood.
Joel gets many in the door with the smiles and hopefully somewhere in the process they get hungry for more and end up in deeper waters.
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