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Old 12-31-2007, 04:03 PM
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"Out to..." Sorry . I had a young lady hanging over my shoulder wanting an indepth explanation of "Branhamites" and why did they... and how could they...??? I misread your post. I enjoy "forum" discussions and debates even in my own home!

I've got family in the Palm Desert area. I'll let you know if I'm ever out that way.
Pel,

I know you wish to remain anonymous and I appreciate that but those shots look like either Idaho or Western Oregon.

Of course, with my geography skills I am probably a continent and maybe even a country off.
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:17 PM
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I would like to explain why I find these terms as they have been used here so overtly offensive.

the Papist comment is a comparison to the church that Apostolics (and many mainstream Protestants) view as the Mother Harlot of Revelations. Comparing Apostolic doctrine to that is a charge of absolute heresy or blasphemy

Mormons created their own Bible in direct violation to the actual BIBLE. Calling Apostolics Mormons, is carrying the charge that we have our own bible (which has been stated before) to its most offensive conclusion. Paul said let them be anathema.

These are beyond the pale and speak of utter depravity.

Not long back I made a statement about some of these churches that are PCI as no different than Methodist. CC1 took me to task. He was right. I repented.
Going over the line is one thing. Making a living, living over the line is vastly different.

On a much more important note, please pray for me, my son is watching Cinderella.
I think the spirit and intent is key. To say someone is a "papist" or a "Bapticostal" in an online forum should be the kind of thing we take with a grain of salt anyway. As relationships are built there may even be ironic humor behind such things.

To be forbidden to compare the terminology behind many teachings would be unfortunate. It is a simple fact that the UPC teaches baptismal regeneration on a par with the Church of Christ and as TRFrance pointed out earlier, the same language is found in the Councils of Nicea, Constantinople and Trent.

If that shackles us to the "Mother Harlot of Revelations" then we might want to change the way that we ennunciate our doctrines. In this case, I don't see how we can unbind ourselves without dropping baptismal regenerationalism altogether. Does anyone suggest that? Rome was right about a number of things. We use their Gregorian Calendar and don't even ask ourselves why.
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:25 PM
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:26 PM
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You sound like my 8 yr old!
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:26 PM
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I think the spirit and intent is key. To say someone is a "papist" or a "Bapticostal" in an online forum should be the kind of thing we take with a grain of salt anyway. As relationships are built there may even be ironic humor behind such things.

To be forbidden to compare the terminology behind many teachings would be unfortunate. It is a simple fact that the UPC teaches baptismal regeneration on a par with the Church of Christ and as TRFrance pointed out earlier, the same language is found in the Councils of Nicea, Constantinople and Trent.

If that shackles us to the "Mother Harlot of Revelations" then we might want to change the way that we ennunciate our doctrines. In this case, I don't see how we can unbind ourselves without dropping baptismal regenerationalism altogether. Does anyone suggest that? Rome was right about a number of things. We use their Gregorian Calendar and don't even ask ourselves why.

well, on BR, i think Elder Epley dealt with that very well....

however this pool has gotten poluted with the terms, and the attitude. I saw what you were saying the way you meant it. but unfortuanatly we are where we are arent we? Its hard to go backward
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:28 PM
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im still a kid at Heart anything wrong with that ???
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:29 PM
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im still a kid at Heart anything wrong with that ???
You still passing out those Gym memberships? I would like one to the YMCA here in Coppell.
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I think the spirit and intent is key. To say someone is a "papist" or a "Bapticostal" in an online forum should be the kind of thing we take with a grain of salt anyway. As relationships are built there may even be ironic humor behind such things.

To be forbidden to compare the terminology behind many teachings would be unfortunate. It is a simple fact that the UPC teaches baptismal regeneration on a par with the Church of Christ and as TRFrance pointed out earlier, the same language is found in the Councils of Nicea, Constantinople and Trent.

If that shackles us to the "Mother Harlot of Revelations" then we might want to change the way that we ennunciate our doctrines. In this case, I don't see how we can unbind ourselves without dropping baptismal regenerationalism altogether. Does anyone suggest that? Rome was right about a number of things. We use their Gregorian Calendar and don't even ask ourselves why.

Yes, but when has the term "Papist" ever been endearing to any Protestant?

It is normally used as an insult.

Stop launching flaming arrows into the compound. They are never viewed as friendly.
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:31 PM
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On a much more important note, please pray for me, my son is watching Cinderella.
Argh' argh' argh', grunt', fart', scratch'... HEY! I watch Cinderella!

How else is your son going to learn about how to treat women!
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:33 PM
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You still passing out those Gym memberships? I would like one to the YMCA here in Coppell.
He is not serious, Ferd... he never even replied to my request for a renewal and a prayer of faith!

I am SOOOO disappointed!
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