Then chalk Dan's perceived "attitude" to the difference the younger culture has of expressing themselves. (No I don't always approve, but I remember being- shall we say- less gracious in youth, in my ability to express myself).
For I have no doubt in spite of what is posted on the forum, his preaching is ACTS 2:38 from the pulpit.
James
Me and Dan are the same age, so please, no lumping people together to their generations...I personally will stick to my previous post.
Here is some scripture for everyone that has nothing to do with 1 2 or 3 steppin, Its called the Love of Christ in us. You want a true sign of salvation or filling of the Spirit which is Christ without any way to twist or disect it?
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
If we are truely "saved" as in the indwelling of the Spirit of God in us then we WILL ressemble the above.
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This generation has largely lost the art of being a gentleman. It was raised on "in your face."
One of the few threads of optimism, that I will throw into this sea of cynicism, is that the pendulum will swing back, as it always does, and they will learn the difference between argument and persuasion.
Yes, I'm screaming, begging, pleading, whatever you want to call it!
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No sir. Not by a long shot. Pelathias hasnt crossed that bridge either.... and he has a hundred posts in this thread.
As there are posters like Barb on your side that show restraint, brains an cordiality ... and then there are ... a slew of gun slingers and bridge crossers, regardless of age.
This generation has largely lost the art of being a gentleman. It was raised on "in your face."One of the few threads of optimism, that I will throw into this sea of cynicism, is that the pendulum will swing back, as it always does, and they will learn the difference between argument and persuasion.
Enjoy your trip.
PS. For the most part I agree with your Daddy.
Man, you've got that right.
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Master of Science in Applied Disgruntled Religious Theorist Wrangling
PhD in Petulant Tantrum Quelling
Dean of the School of Hard Knocks
This generation has largely lost the art of being a gentleman. It was raised on "in your face."
One of the few threads of optimism, that I will throw into this sea of cynicism, is that the pendulum will swing back, as it always does, and they will learn the difference between argument and persuasion.
Enjoy your trip.
PS. For the most part I agree with your Daddy.
James, the point here is that we have to deal with where the pendulum is... not where it was or where it will be.
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Me and Dan are the same age, so please, no lumping people together to their generations...I personally will stick to my previous post.
Here is some scripture for everyone that has nothing to do with 1 2 or 3 steppin, Its called the Love of Christ in us. You want a true sign of salvation or filling of the Spirit which is Christ without any way to twist or disect it?
1If I speak in the tongues[a] of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. 2If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3If I give all I possess to the poor and surrender my body to the flames,[b] but have not love, I gain nothing.
4Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
13And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
If we are truely "saved" as in the indwelling of the Spirit of God in us then we WILL ressemble the above.
Mat 13:13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
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"Rest in the Lord, and wait patiently for Him...." -Psa. 37:7
Waiting for the Lord is easy... Waiting patiently? Not so much.
In all I have read, I have seen much said that God's grace is not sufficient for the salvation of the soul, because we must have a man to say the sacred name of Jesus Christ over us in baptism for our sins to be remitted. Faith and grace have nothing to do with salvation it looks like, and the precious sacrifice of Calvary is not good enough.
In all that my three-step brethren have put forth, they have failed a litmus test of the scripture, the Ephesians 2:8-9 test.
I do feel strongly about this, now more than ever, that we are saved before baptism, but we are baptized because we are saved.
God does not give down payments on salvation either. The truth of this is found when several of the believers in the Bible received the baptism of the Holy Ghost before being baptized in water. They were saved, baptized with the Holy Ghost, and then baptized in Jesus name. We know that God does not dwell in unclean vessels according to the scriptures, thus a soul has to have been cleansed prior to their receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost.
Another point lies in the issue of foreshadowing in the Old testament. When a soul was labeled cleaned by the priest, they were not mikvehed (baptized) then labeled clean. The priest announced the individual clean, and then they washed in water. This is so powerful as a foreshadow of baptism in our time. Baptism does not wash away sins, but we are baptized because our sins are washed away.
To my three-step brethren, I am still Apostolic. I still believe in Oneness, baptism in Jesus name, baptism of the Holy Ghost, and living a consecrated life before the Lord. I believe, as the Apostles did, that once a soul repents and confesses their sins, Jesus is faithful enough to forgive them of their sins and cleanse them of all unrighteousness. His blood is that powerful and His sacrifice was that great.
Oh my goodness! I have never seen anybody's 'pendulum' swing so far, so quick!
Be carefull, Bro Price, that it doesn't hit you on the way back.........
As there are posters like Barb on your side that show restraint, brains an cordiality ... and then there are ... a slew of gun slingers, regardless of age.
Add some more objectivity to your ire, Ferd.
we've already covered my objectivity Daniel. It remains in tact
What we have not yet been able to achieve is getting you to see what the problem is.
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