Major Split in the MS District UPC?

Originally Posted by gulfcoastbrother

I hate to break it to you fellas, but holiness does not refer to your man made standards.

Exactly. Does Evangelist Miller have his own that he likes to preach?
Do we have to follow his standards of holiness?

You are not saved based upon how holy you are. You are not saved based upon cut or uncut hair, how long your sleeves are, how long your dress is, how much you speak in tongues, etc, etc.

Jesus Christ died once for the forgiveness of sins. Not only was Jesus our Lamb of God, He was also our Priest.

Jesus is our holiness.

[rrford]

Uhm, actually you are saved somewhat by how holy you are.

Originally Posted by rrford

Uhm, actually you are saved somewhat by how holy you are.

Ok please explain RR since the evangelist is taking a bow out of this one...

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

Ok please explain RR since the evangelist is taking a bow out of this one...

Without holiness we will not see God. We do not impart holiniess to ourselves. When we are saved it is imparted to us. It is incumbent upon us to maintain the spirit and attitude and lifestyle of holiness.

There is a difference between thinking holiness is a bargaining tool to gain salvation and holiness through sanctification being needed to remain saved, IMO.

[trickledown]

Without holiness we will not see God. We do not impart holiniess to ourselves. When we are saved it is imparted to us. It is incumbent upon us to maintain the spirit and attitude and lifestyle of holiness.

Walk,
RR has definately got the correct approach here, WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT WITH THIS ONE?

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by rrford

Without holiness we will not see God. We do not impart holiniess to ourselves. When we are saved it is imparted to us. It is incumbent upon us to maintain the spirit and attitude and lifestyle of holiness.

There is a difference between thinking holiness is a bargaining tool to gain salvation and holiness through sanctification being needed to remain saved, IMO.

Man, RR, you know how to make a monkey think dontya! I will chew on this for awhile!!! I miss your posts...

Originally Posted by rrford

When we are saved it is imparted to us. It is incumbent upon us to maintain the spirit and attitude and lifestyle of holiness.

So we have to maintain our holiness to make heaven our home?
Thanks for sharing.

[rrford]

Originally Posted by Walkbyfaith7

So we have to maintain our holiness to make heaven our home?
Thanks for sharing.

IMO, that is the way I see it.

[trickledown]

Walk,
So we have to maintain our holiness to make heaven our home?
Thanks for sharing.

You think not?

Originally Posted by trickledown

Walk,
So we have to maintain our holiness to make heaven our home?
Thanks for sharing.

You think not?

IMO:

Jesus is my holiness...my holiness is like well you know (dirty rags) in His sight.
I maintain faith in Jesus. I do not have to maintain holiness because only He is holy just as the angels cry, "holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty".

I do not think what I do earns heaven my home but rather what God did for me as the Lamb of God.