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Old 01-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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When my dad evangelized he would have references that he would share.

He would also do back ground interest checks on the pastor as well.

He got put into some crazy situations by not knowing who he was going to preach for.

I think the I'm in the area call does not happen as much anymore...
If I know a Pastor and trust his judgment I always leave that door open for the Pastor to call me and say, "I have this Evangelist that I think would help your Church."

However, I have never... in all my years of Pastoring... had an Evangelist who called me up and said, "My name is *** and can I come preach for you?" ever come preach for me. Never.

Now, mind you, there are a few that I've heard or had recommended to me and told them, "If you're in the area give me a call." I mean that. However, a pretty sure way to never preach for me is to call me, introduce yourself and ask to come preach.

You think that's too hard? Then you've never been burned bad enough! I used to feel different but had a 'struggling Evangelist' call me and put me on a guilt trip. I used him... and he used me. Ended up trying to sell a bunch of stuff to my folks, calling them on the side without my knowledge, pressuring them into purchases of things they didn't even need.

Serious? Absolutely... he sold a DIET kit to a woman that weighed 90 pounds!

And, yes, it's the truth!
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:06 PM
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References and recommendations, I usually would have someone if a friend recommended them. Though I did feel sorry for a guy when I pastored in Idaho, he basically preached out of the Geography Section of the Thompson Chain Bible. Me and my wife still laugh about it.

When I evanglized I would have a host pastor call anyone that they thought would click with my ministry and I could help.

If I would have stuck with it, I believe I would have had no problem staying busy or booked.

But I got lonely and wanted to earn a Masters Degree.
Lonely is a killer when you are sitting alone in a trailer every night after everyone has gone home. Most of the time my wife wasn't with me.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:06 PM
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I'm not a pastor so my opinion matters little, bit the Bible says to know them that labor among you...

I'd be careful who I let address my sheep. Especially the young in the Lord.
Do you have ANY clue how many people really don't consider that passage of scripture? Eventually, in many cases, it's going to cost them dearly for ignoring it.

Diet kits, anyone?!?!?

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Old 01-07-2008, 10:07 PM
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That snake oil might just cost more in the long run.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:07 PM
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If I know a Pastor and trust his judgment I always leave that door open for the Pastor to call me and say, "I have this Evangelist that I think would help your Church."

However, I have never... in all my years of Pastoring... had an Evangelist who called me up and said, "My name is *** and can I come preach for you?" ever come preach for me. Never.

Now, mind you, there are a few that I've heard or had recommended to me and told them, "If you're in the area give me a call." I mean that. However, a pretty sure way to never preach for me is to call me, introduce yourself and ask to come preach.

You think that's too hard? Then you've never been burned bad enough! I used to feel different but had a 'struggling Evangelist' call me and put me on a guilt trip. I used him... and he used me. Ended up trying to sell a bunch of stuff to my folks, calling them on the side without my knowledge, pressuring them into purchases of things they didn't even need.

Serious? Absolutely... he sold a DIET kit to a woman that weighed 90 pounds!

And, yes, it's the truth!
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:11 PM
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Lonely is a killer when you are sitting alone in a trailer every night after everyone has gone home. Most of the time my wife wasn't with me.
That, in my opinion, is one of the dangers of the way most people are doing revivals now... it's separating families by taking a husband away from his loved ones. And, yes, that's sad.

We have an evangelist quarters and try to accomodate the entire family. However, I hear we're one of the few that still have 'old time' revivals.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:13 PM
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I know of a situation, ( I hope it rightfully pertains to this thread)

Where a pastor recommended an evangelist to other pastors, confident of the work that was done in his church by this evangelist would benefit others.

Well things started to unravel for this evangelist and they stated messing up with lies and other rather not so ethical behavior fitting a VISITING minister.

And other pastors started to complain to the pastor about the Evangelist.

So you know what that pastor did??? (BIG KUDOS TO THIS MAN)

He went to the evangelists Pastor (drove 2+ hours) and told the man all about it so the Pastor could handle the evangelist.
Plus he talked to all the other pastors letting him know what was being done!



That is why, as unfortunate as it is, that I seldom ever call a 'friend' to recommend an Evangelist. I've seen them be on 'good behavior' at my place and act like a demanding child somewhere else.

I wonder how often people really call an Evangelist's Pastor before having him?
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:15 PM
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I just walk in and they ask me to say something and the Holy Ghost moves so strong they ask me to come back.The Holy Ghost tells the story,Amen
You serious? And, if so, please explain what you mean... examples?
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:18 PM
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If I know a Pastor and trust his judgment I always leave that door open for the Pastor to call me and say, "I have this Evangelist that I think would help your Church."

However, I have never... in all my years of Pastoring... had an Evangelist who called me up and said, "My name is *** and can I come preach for you?" ever come preach for me. Never.

Now, mind you, there are a few that I've heard or had recommended to me and told them, "If you're in the area give me a call." I mean that. However, a pretty sure way to never preach for me is to call me, introduce yourself and ask to come preach.

You think that's too hard? Then you've never been burned bad enough! I used to feel different but had a 'struggling Evangelist' call me and put me on a guilt trip. I used him... and he used me. Ended up trying to sell a bunch of stuff to my folks, calling them on the side without my knowledge, pressuring them into purchases of things they didn't even need.

Serious? Absolutely... he sold a DIET kit to a woman that weighed 90 pounds!

And, yes, it's the truth!

Seriously, the whole process needs to be re-vamped, in reality it comes down to the I know so and so, very intimidating for the God called, shy evanglist that has a call and anointing but has no clue about the process because no one has shown them how.

There are two opposite spectrums ends, the camp/philosophy that tells you if your called God will open doors, no calls, no networking , just pray and wait. You wait and wait, go to conferences, watch all the carnal preachers kids that you saw in Bible College fornicate and fool around, while you studied, prayed and was obedient get meetings, churches and promoted by their buddies.
(Boy keith you sound bitter, well I once was, but India took it all away)


The other end are the self promoters with their neat little Outreach.com promotions that have no idea of a gift making room for you.

I think somewhere in the middle is where it should be.
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:19 PM
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That, in my opinion, is one of the dangers of the way most people are doing revivals now... it's separating families by taking a husband away from his loved ones. And, yes, that's sad.

We have an evangelist quarters and try to accomodate the entire family. However, I hear we're one of the few that still have 'old time' revivals.
Everything other than "old time" revivals needs to be done away with.
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