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01-08-2008, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
That is why, as unfortunate as it is, that I seldom ever call a 'friend' to recommend an Evangelist. I've seen them be on 'good behavior' at my place and act like a demanding child somewhere else.
I wonder how often people really call an Evangelist's Pastor before having him?
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This is wisdom to be heeded by any pastor reading this thread-
If more calls were made to their pastor it would save a lot of trouble ahead.
Keith pastored a couple that went church to church singing everywhere-not one time did he ever get a call about these folks-now they sit in another church and still no phone call. I guess some people just need to learn on their own.
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01-08-2008, 03:52 PM
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I don't understand how cold calls are accepted or how an evangelist gets enough gumption to make cold calls. A gift makes room for itself. I'm sure there are a lot of street corners that need a Word from the Lord.
An evangelist has to provide for himself and his family. If he has to get a job to make ends meet, he is not making his job his goal in life, he is putting a little bread on the table. Pastors have to work at times. Besides, a few calouses on the hands of an evangelist can add some wisdom to the words they bring.
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01-08-2008, 03:58 PM
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How much training would a preacher need except for knowing the word of truth as everyone should,then let the Holy Ghost speak what he wants and as he has taught you.I started preaching with in a year after I was filled with the Holy Ghost.It was simple but some people make it so hard.I study subjects and then with no notes start preaching,the Holy Ghost brings to my rememberance what he taught me.Sometimes i touch on many subjects.The Holy Ghost knows what is needed in each persons life and to preach one subject you may only reach 10% of the peoples needs,that is bot God.Yes you greet people and maybe say a prayer to start and lay hands on people after preaching.You can learn all that in 5 min.,othere then that what is there to be trained in except the word ? Why would you think I was joking ? Don't you think the Holy Ghost does this with anointing,how can a man train people to do this, help establish, enhance and solidify their ministry ? The Holy Ghost always opened doors for me.I don't only preach in apostolic church assemblies,I converted a Church of Christ pastor one day and some members.Preaching is not just to the saved and in apostolic assemblies.Please tell me how was the apostles trained except in the word by Jesus ? The bottom line is the anointing can do everything and these day man try to do everything. Look though the scripture in Acts and the four gosples how the Holy Ghost worked and anointed preachers with power and athority. Thank you for your time.
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Dear Sir, (I am guessing you are a sir)
I am probably a little older than you are, and I have always noticed the road of humility will take further than the one that says I've got it all and I know it all don't help me.
One should always remain the student and ever wanting to learn from others. There is never point where we all have arrived to all knowledge and understanding. Every day that we live we can learn something new.
I like what my husband said recently-that is why God gave us 2 ears on 1 mouth we should listen twice as much as we talk.
There have been some very good words of wisdom on this thread I hope you take advantage of what has been said.
Blessing to you!
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01-08-2008, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
Dear Sir, (I am guessing you are a sir)
I am probably a little older than you are, and I have always noticed the road of humility will take further than the one that says I've got it all and I know it all don't help me.
One should always remain the student and ever wanting to learn from others. There is never point where we all have arrived to all knowledge and understanding. Every day that we live we can learn something new.
I like what my husband said recently-that is why God gave us 2 ears on 1 mouth we should listen twice as much as we talk.
There have been some very good words of wisdom on this thread I hope you take advantage of what has been said.
Blessing to you! 
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It seems to me that young ministers, more than others, think they have a lot to say. I know I did, but not to the point that I see in places here.
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01-08-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Joelel
How much training would a preacher need except for knowing the word of truth as everyone should,then let the Holy Ghost speak what he wants and as he has taught you.I started preaching with in a year after I was filled with the Holy Ghost.It was simple but some people make it so hard.I study subjects and then with no notes start preaching,the Holy Ghost brings to my rememberance what he taught me.Sometimes i touch on many subjects.The Holy Ghost knows what is needed in each persons life and to preach one subject you may only reach 10% of the peoples needs,that is bot God.Yes you greet people and maybe say a prayer to start and lay hands on people after preaching.You can learn all that in 5 min.,othere then that what is there to be trained in except the word ? Why would you think I was joking ? Don't you think the Holy Ghost does this with anointing,how can a man train people to do this, help establish, enhance and solidify their ministry ? The Holy Ghost always opened doors for me.I don't only preach in apostolic church assemblies,I converted a Church of Christ pastor one day and some members.Preaching is not just to the saved and in apostolic assemblies.Please tell me how was the apostles trained except in the word by Jesus ? The bottom line is the anointing can do everything and these day man try to do everything. Look though the scripture in Acts and the four gosples how the Holy Ghost worked and anointed preachers with power and athority. Thank you for your time.
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Well, Joelel... I tell you what. It's obvious from your post that you're just turning the world upside down with your ministry so I'll make a deal with you; You don't need to learn from anything these men are saying and we won't try to push our principles of ministry on you.
There, that should make it better!
Obviously you are pretty set in your way on this so go, my friend, and preach your world to a supernatural experience! I'll just sit here in my little corner of the world and dwell in obscurity, struggling to operate with the feeble ministry God gave me, and hopefully God will find a way to override my lack of experience and eventually use me someday.
Blessings on you, Joelel!
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01-08-2008, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev
It seems to me that young ministers, more than others, think they have a lot to say. I know I did, but not to the point that I see in places here.
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My old pastor used to tell me, "Son, you don't know enough to preach longer than thirty minutes."
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01-08-2008, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
Well, Joelel... I tell you what. It's obvious from your post that you're just turning the world upside down with your ministry so I'll make a deal with you; You don't need to learn from anything these men are saying and we won't try to push our principles of ministry on you.
There, that should make it better!
Obviously you are pretty set in your way on this so go, my friend, and preach your world to a supernatural experience! I'll just sit here in my little corner of the world and dwell in obscurity, struggling to operate with the feeble ministry God gave me, and hopefully God will find a way to override my lack of experience and eventually use me someday.
Blessings on you, Joelel!

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My old pastor also used to tell me, "Son, it's what you learn after you know it all that really helps you."
I guess he thought it took more than five minutes for me. I'm not as gifted as some.
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01-08-2008, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Coonskinner
My old pastor also used to tell me, "Son, it's what you learn after you know it all that really helps you."
I guess he thought it took more than five minutes for me. I'm not as gifted as some.

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What your pastor said is a quote for the books!
Chasing those blueticks around are you?
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01-08-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev
What your pastor said is a quote for the books!
Chasing those blueticks around are you?
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Well, I stroll leisurely to the trees rather than chasing them,for the most part.
Are you a coon hunter?
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01-08-2008, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
Well, Joelel... I tell you what. It's obvious from your post that you're just turning the world upside down with your ministry so I'll make a deal with you; You don't need to learn from anything these men are saying and we won't try to push our principles of ministry on you.
There, that should make it better!
Obviously you are pretty set in your way on this so go, my friend, and preach your world to a supernatural experience! I'll just sit here in my little corner of the world and dwell in obscurity, struggling to operate with the feeble ministry God gave me, and hopefully God will find a way to override my lack of experience and eventually use me someday.
Blessings on you, Joelel!

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Well Bro... your "lack of experience" NOT... has been a blessing to us... been listening to some sermons over and over... and being blessed over and over! Thanks and continue training up those young men! I know they have a wonderful leader...and one who is LED by God!!!
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