We had a HOG in our old church.... Oh let me tell ya!!!He would call pastor all hours of the night and day... he would be standing at his office door after service.. (pastor would always go there first and put his stuff away then come and greet everyone) since my office was directly next door and hubbys on the other side we tried to diffuse this often but usually to not avail... I dont know how many times me and hubby got the "wink" from pastor asking us to run greet everyone for him as he was "stuck" again.. No this person didnt need anything really he just wanted to talk... to everyone but pastor first....
So then we made the mistake of all staying and talking with him one night... oh NOT good... he had no clue the house connected to the parking lot of the church (that would be the parsonage) belonged to the church... oh well he found this out that day.... so.. now he knows where we live and has pastors address because he has the directory... so about a month later... pastor starts getting knocks on his front door all hours of the day and night... this was not good as he was already going thru some major personal issues right then... well the pastors estranged wife then asked this man not so nicely to not come to her house any longer... he didnt.... oh he remembered where the assistant pastors lived... so we started getting these calls and knocks.... here I am with 4 kids waking up at 2 am while my husband is often out of state working... this man walking to my house and ringing my doorbell!!!!!!!!
Dont take me wrong!!! LOVE SOULS I mean for goodness sake we ran a huge halfway house ministry and often had many of them at our home for days and had 4 displaced people living with us a few times... we opened our doors to many and didnt matter the situation if we knew them well.... anywho you get the idea... but LORD HAVE MERCY!!!!!!!!! If this man had knocked on my door one more time I was gonna have to strangle the sense outta him! (wait not sure he had any left) so I spoke to our board members and asked them what they thought... as they were my only sounding board right then.. well since they were going to be over working on our home the next day (well they pretty much lived there considring all the work that had to be done on that house lol) so they kindly sat him down and explained to him that he needed to come to one of their homes as the chance of him coming while I was home alone was high and that was not a good thing and that wasnt a good situation... he kindly quit coming over unless he came over with one of them to work on our house... In the end he told me... I only wanted to help the pastors... I hear now he does this exact same thing to his new pastor where many of our former members now attend... Its a wild road and there is usually no nice way to handle some like this... fortunately like PM said at least this one didnt turn on us!
Those kind of HOGS simply have a misplaced affection. It is very easy to handle those kind of people and make them feel good about themselves at the same time. Turning that sense of affection in the right way can adavantage the work of God and make one of the finest and most faithful saints at the same time. I love those people. It is just a matter of turning them just a little.
Those kind of HOGS simply have a misplaced affection. It is very easy to handle those kind of people and make them feel good about themselves at the same time. Turning that sense of affection in the right way can adavantage the work of God and make one of the finest and most faithful saints at the same time. I love those people. It is just a matter of turning them just a little.
I think ATTENTION HOGS are needy....does not have anything to do with affection, they are.... queeens
two things, the devil gets credit for all kinds of stuff that happens, the truth is he just aint that powerful and second, most of these people are needy and just need some direction or something to work on, how bout a life, lol,god bless our pastors who deal with this constantly, i did years ago, now i just try not to be a hog, lol,dt
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well there you have it. One thousand threads about how bad preachers are. One light hearted thread about some of the things preachers have to deal with and already the preacher is being ponted out as the bad guy.
nice.
I remember this lady that always needed to come to the pastor/sunday school teacher/ sunday school superintendant/ choir director/ youth pastor at lest once a week and get them in a corner to help them with their "problem". very secretivly they would tell them the details of what ever happened that week in hushed tones like it was some big deal.
they got a speeding ticket and just knew it was the devil.
someone yelled at them at work, had to be the devil on their tail.
the restrooms at church werent clean, someone (other than them) needed to deal with it.
their son got a C in school, surely the end of the world.
they saw something on the news that must mean the end is near.
on and on and on it went. week after week year after year, until she decided our church wasnt "right" and she left.
I often walk into the church now and sing
Peach, peace
wonderful peace
coming down
from the Father above...
just wish the Father would have shown her the error of our ways sooner. (I think she is AGs problem now! LOL!)
Gee... I feel the love LOL... that was in referrence to the last comment LOL... We have ummm 20 some odd pastors on staff.... I think they can handle her! And .... IF NOT... I am hiding.. altho.. ya ever heard the saying.. where to they find em and why do they send em to me??? LOL... Ummm ummmm we seem to get some of the oddest ones... but thats OK
I had a dear friend tell us years ago our doors would be opened and God would send us all those who no one else wanted! Gotta love that one! He has indeed done that and we love em to death!!! Not literally.... We have one right now... who does not understand at all.. we are finishing cleaning out mom and dads house.. he wants to come over all the time..so then we tell him we are working over there... he gets a ride over there to help us!!! I love this person to pieces in the Lord.. but I had to get very firm and tell him look! My mom died.. we are doing family stuff .... it was hard for them to understand but there has to be a line drawn!!!
Those kind of HOGS simply have a misplaced affection. It is very easy to handle those kind of people and make them feel good about themselves at the same time. Turning that sense of affection in the right way can adavantage the work of God and make one of the finest and most faithful saints at the same time. I love those people. It is just a matter of turning them just a little.
I think you are right.
I actually was one of those people. Although I didn't do most of the things that I'm reading here. And I think that it comes from being rejected earlier in life by one or both parents. So, you have to have the attention of someone important to make you feel important and accepted.
I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.
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One of the guys who was like that in our old church... we asked him what he wanted to do... just point blank... and his case was true of what you say... he said I will do anything you will let me do.... The house needed tons of work an so did the church... This man taught himself how to tile and how to do sheetrock and did the entire parsonage and church and was so so content and happy... he is now leading 3 bible study groups and thriving wonderfully!
One of the guys who was like that in our old church... we asked him what he wanted to do... just point blank... and his case was true of what you say... he said I will do anything you will let me do.... The house needed tons of work an so did the church... This man taught himself how to tile and how to do sheetrock and did the entire parsonage and church and was so so content and happy... he is now leading 3 bible study groups and thriving wonderfully!
Awesome!
Maybe giving these folks a job (usher or greeter, etc.) will help after all! Interesting!
Maybe giving these folks a job (usher or greeter, etc.) will help after all! Interesting!
Some in the case mentioned above yes it does... some there I think is no help... well.. there is but I think you know what I mean... some just want the attention and not to work and keep busy! But yes I have seen it to work wonderfully and not.. both sides of the board
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