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Old 01-11-2008, 02:47 PM
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We were chosen by him BEFORE the world was created. But why did he choose us? God is no respecter of persons and He doesn't pull names out of a hat (He's not arbitrary as in this definition: Determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle: stopped at the first motel we passed, an arbitrary choice. )

I agree that our response is expected by God because it was foreknown of Him. He knew Esau would sell his birthright. That, I believe, is why he loved Jacob and hated Esau. Before we were actualities, he knew us as actualities because of His foreknowledge, He based His calling us and electing us to eternal life. Before we actually did anything (works), He called us because of His perfect foreknowledge.


I don't feel like you answered my question so I'll ask it again: Are we chosen by God [according to His] foreknowledge of the choice we would make to believe the gospel?
The ultimate redemption of all, with curative punishment is the only position that answers all the questions. Just like a loving and wise parent, God calls and seeks and endlessly pursues the ultimate surrender of each of His creation. Some thru the fire, and some thru the flood, but all thru the blood the He once and for ALL shed for all creatures, on earth, under the earth, in heaven and ALL that are in them.

With man it is impossible, yet thru God ALL things are possible.
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