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01-14-2008, 09:20 AM
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what i find most appalling is the denial, the pastor is not god almighty, he is a human, subject to being just that human, people make mistakes, they are handled much easier by all that are around if handled honestly and openly, inho, dt 
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01-14-2008, 09:31 AM
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Exactly the difference being I have compassion for the ministry.....and what they have to deal with I have more than one in my family! That does NOT change what happened to me or you or anyone else who was abused.....my hearts desire is for these pious, stiff necked men to see what the pain is really like!
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I understand you are hurt and bitter (things like what you all when through would leave a bitter taste in anyones mouth) but shouldnt you pray for them that they see their err and repent and seek restitution not to just wish them ill in return? That last comment is a bit harsh there sis no matter what the happening I do feel... JMHO
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01-14-2008, 09:41 AM
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In my opinion she is helping to hurt healing people.
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01-14-2008, 09:47 AM
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In my opinion she is helping to hurt healing people.
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How so?
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Psa 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.
1Pe 5:6-7 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.
Tit 3:2 To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men.
Psa 51:10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.
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01-14-2008, 09:47 AM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
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It is not the healing that is hurting.
It is the hurt that will never return for restoration.
The hurt needs to be healed in the church.
It for the most part has been able to continue.
The attitude finds its face in the pulpit.
The folks in the pew will take on "your" attitudes.
So goes the leader, so goes the people.
To stop the bleeding of the hurting.
Stop the hurt...
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01-14-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
It is not the healing that is hurting.
It is the hurt that will never return for restoration.
The hurt needs to be healed in the church.
It for the most part has been able to continue.
The attitude finds its face in the pulpit.
The folks in the few will take on "your" attitudes.
So goes the leader, so goes the people.
To stop the bleeding of the hurting.
Stop the hurt...
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Have you read all the spewing her site vomits out??? The bad guys are men preaching Acts 2:38 as the only salvation message.]
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01-14-2008, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AmazingGrace
I understand you are hurt and bitter (things like what you all when through would leave a bitter taste in anyones mouth) but shouldnt you pray for them that they see their err and repent and seek restitution not to just wish them ill in return? That last comment is a bit harsh there sis no matter what the happening I do feel... JMHO
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Oh yes, please heed this. Sis Truthseeker, your comment, that attitude, leads right to bitterness. Bitterness does far more damage than any abuse could possibly do, it eats you from the inside out.
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01-14-2008, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
It is not the healing that is hurting.
It is the hurt that will never return for restoration.
The hurt needs to be healed in the church.
It for the most part has been able to continue.
The attitude finds its face in the pulpit.
The folks in the few will take on "your" attitudes.
So goes the leader, so goes the people.
To stop the bleeding of the hurting.
Stop the hurt...
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Have you read all the spewing her site vomits out??? The bad guys are men preaching Acts 2:38 as the only salvation message.] |
I did happen upon her site once. I agree her comments are over the top. My comment is more in general to all churches.
Healing needs to happen in the church and things should not be swept under the rug..
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01-14-2008, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
I did happen upon her site once. I agree her comments are over the top. My comment is more in general to all churches.
Healing needs to happen in the church and things should not be swept under the rug..
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good points neck, go brother, dt
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01-14-2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
It is your option to go there ........... you will not be offened if you don't go there, the thing is why would you be offened by truth?
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Sis TS, I read over there a couple of years ago, and found I could not identify with most of those people.
My heart goes out to you and others who feel they have been abused. But I think in a lot of cases, it's as Bro Epley says. Pastors preach and teach what they feel God wants them to..........maybe over zealously and not in wisdom....and it's easy to think 'abuse'. But in my nearly fifty years of being in the UPCI, I've seen very little of it. Some, of course, but not enough to warrant a website against the organization.
Jesus was hurt by his own. But he was an overcomer, and by his example, we can too. Thank God.
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